[alt text: Text which says, “The 2 genders according to chuds”. Below the text is two images. On the left is an image of Geralt from The Witcher 3, and he is labeled, “Male, parentheses (white)”. On the right is an image of Ciri from The Witcher 4 trailer, and she is labeled, “Political”.]

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    6 days ago

    Remember there are two religions

    Christian and Political

    two races

    White and Political

    two genders

    Male and Political

  • denaggels@feddit.org
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    Who played the witcher 3 and didn’t want more Ciri gameplay? Wtf? The agile movement was so fun. Best parts of the game fight-wise.

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      These people didn’t play Witcher 3. It’s mostly right wing rage bait podcasts. They’ll move on to a different side thing to be mad about in a few days.

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      Here, me. The Ciri parts were like someone shoved a linear action adventure into the open world RPG I wanted to play.

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        I wanted to progress the main story but every time it was a ciri part I was trying to rush through to get back to Geralt and go kill monsters and collect items lol

        • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I agree, but I liked the pacing of it. Ciri’s fights were pretty fun, unchallenging as they were. The fact that they were pretty sparse and short probably helped

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            They were the most challenging on the hardest difficulty at least with Geralt you can RPG.

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      Game was so boring, so slow, so clunky, so bleak, I never made it that far. Tried twice over the years. I want to like it. It seems great, but then actually playing it becomes a chore quickly.

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    Developing from a pretty, young, “vulnerable” girl that needs saving (even though she’s already tough as hell in TW3) into an older (chud translation: “ugly”) main protagonist fighting back against the patriarchy has these fools spitting with outrage. Here’s hoping CDPR doesn’t give them an inch.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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      She aged naturally! Ugh, she was my hot sexy daughter in Witcher 3! Why would they… Have her grow up?! /s

      Only thing I’m hesitant about is the actor, but I’m willing to give her a shot. Minor thing.

      I doubt CDPR went into this without knowing how incels would react, and knowing they’ll still buy it. After CP2077 with the whole customize genitals issue (that I’m sure most people had forgotten about), I don’t think CDPR cares. They’re Polish, I hope they laugh at our stupid ass “culture war” bullshit

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          Please stop blaming those things on everything except people. I’m Polish. Polish people drink homophobia with their mothers milk. We didn’t need to import it from US or Russia (it’s still better than in the 90s). Average developer is a young male who predominantly votes for outright fascists. The reason CDPR appears progressive is because they calculated it to be more profitable.

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            About 50% of developers are 25-35. We skew young due to more and more people becoming programmers, that is, for the same reason that cobblers skew old, but not first vote kind of young.

            And your source doesn’t even make an attempt to correlate voting behaviour to profession, much less specialised field (programmer vs gamedev), not to mention that not every gamedev is a programmer, all in all not enough data to slander a whole profession. Do better.

            The reason gamedevs skews progressive, btw, is because artists do.

            But OTOH yes you’re right in Poland’s case it’s not imported culture war BS it’s Catholicism.

  • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee
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    I wish people would just laugh at them, and tell them how fucking ridiculous they look and then promptly leave their asses behind and move on. Instead, we get news articles about a minority of people who have shit opinions about things they have no understanding of.

    • coyotino [he/him]@beehaw.orgOP
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      I wish people would just laugh at them, and tell them how fucking ridiculous they look and then promptly leave their asses behind and move on. Instead, we get news articles about a minority of people who have shit opinions about things they have no understanding of.

      We tried that with GamerGate, and it didn’t work. Keeping bad people away from levers of power requires constant diligence; we cannot simply dismiss and move on, because then while we are looking away, the trolls continue to build their base. I’m a strong believer in the power of memes in our modern digital age. Try to write a bunch of articles about a problem like this, and most folks will only absorb the pithy headline. Some will read the article, but mostly only college-educated folks. Instead, make a meme about it that distills the logic of your opponent down to its ridiculous conclusion, and suddenly everyone gets it. (this isn’t to say we should never write an article to explore the nuance of a point, just arguing for the value of leftist memes)

      We have the discussion out in the open so that the kids and other uneducated folks can read a variety of opinions. If we don’t, the trolls swoop up and try to turn them into incels.

    • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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      Kamela’s early campaign of just calling Trump “weird” was all about this, for some reason she dropped it in favor of kissing the asses of the Cheneys for no payoff.

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        It’s because it was actually a Walz thing, and she sidelined Walz for some reason.

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    I don’t really understand people saying it’s not part of the lore. I did the expansions and everything. I got the ending, assuming that I remember correctly, where Ciri becomes a witcher. And in the expansions, Geralt just wanted to retire on a mountain vineyard in not-France.

    One thing I was thinking of with the announcement is what would they do with the witcher powers, but from the electric punch in the preview, my guess is they’re going to expand her psychic powers to take the place of witcher powers.

    I’m looking foward to it. It looks kick ass.

    Also - are there actually as many compaints as people make it out to be? Like I’ve never met anyone in real life who didn’t like that a game featured a woman.

    • coyotino [he/him]@beehaw.orgOP
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      as someone who read the books (like 10 years ago so i could be wrong), I’m pretty certain it is not psychic powers, but spellcasting. Ciri trained under Yennefer and went to sorceress school for while. Geralt has the Witcher signs, which are like an elementary form of spellcasting, but Ciri learned a bit more than Geralt. Separately, she also has her warping power that is completely unique to her and very important in the lore, but I won’t say more for sake of spoilers. I don’t remember how much of this they cover in the games.

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        100%! You can totally see her draw elemental magic from the water running down the cave wall then cast it as ball lightning (or electricity at least?). She uses both Quen and Igni in the trailer too though. There’s also book lore about magic that could lend itself well to game play, like the costs of casting more than you’ve drawn and the skill required to draw from different “elemental planes.” Witcher mage would be a fun build!

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    Why isn’t the lady who’s been training all her life to fight monsters in my grounded low fantasy game made to look like she comes from the place it is set, the same as my ones in Stellar Blade!?!?!

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    I bet the people complaining with “what about the lore” have a big overlap with the people that wanted Ciri to be a love interest in W3…

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        “Uhm, actually, if you think of the historic period…”

        Or some bullshit like that. Screw these morons, seriously.

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      As someone who is curious about how they are going to explain the lore (in case you haven’t read the books: Ciri forswore magic after she had to draw power from fire in an emergency situation and that nearly escalated - also, you are missing out, the books are great), I feel offended by your statement.

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    I’ve been slightly out of the loop on this, are incels really whining about Witcher 4 using Ciri as a protagonist because she’s a woman?

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      No. They’re whining about Witcher 4 using Ciri as a protagonist because they think she was made ugly.

      Attractive women designed solely to be the object of male affection are allowed to be protagonists. When a woman stands on their own as a unique complex individual, they take issue.

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        Chuds thought Aloy had a beard because she had peach fuzz. They don’t know what a real woman looks like and they don’t want to know.

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          To fair, the “peach fuzz” was a superfluous addition.

          As much as I enjoyed Horizon, it was very much a ‘one and done’ game for me. I would have liked more emphasis on replayability than skin textures and raytracing.

          But that’s just me. I’m old-school.

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            It’s not an “either - or” thing. The artists modeling fine details like peach fuzz had nothing to do with the game’s design and it also had no influence on how replayable the game would be.

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            I would have liked more emphasis on replayability than skin textures and raytracing.

            Reminds me of the whole kerfuffle of western devs bashing elden ring, a significant portion of which could be summed up as “why would you put something in the game without a big map marker showing them where it is???”

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              I don’t know about Elden Ring. Never got into the Souls games.

              But yeah, quest markers in open world games is lazy.

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    The bad reactions to this seemed minimal to me, but my god the woman in the Galactic trailer is driving them nuts.

    Which I really don’t understand, because I find her look and vibe the good part of that trailer. The slurping drink and forced pop song on the other hand…

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      They seem to hate Naughty Dog ever since they made them play as a lesbian instead of a generic white guy.

      I do like to see those people triggered. I can see them being angry at rainbows for making the sky gay.

      Also, I hope I spend this game collecting so much 80s music that I feel like I’m back in Vice City.

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        I also cannot understand how you could play the Last of Us Part 1 and not realise how horrible Joel is.

        Spoilers for both games ahead.

        The ending of 1 was super difficult for me to play and super powerful in its delivery. It was horrible to decide to “save” Ellie by literally murdering everyone in the research station and destroying all hope for a cure. I was really impressed that they went there storywise, but then when in 2 Joel gets killed, all these so-called “fans” are angry because their lovely protagonist was killed. It’s like they willfully ignore the complicated morals that were already present in the first game. When Abby does horrible stuff, they hate her. When Joel does horrible stuff in 1, it’s fine. Part 2 had some problems, but I hugely respect what they were going for and how it polarised the community.

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          Re: the ending and Part II - It pissed me of in particular because I specifically went for a leg shot in that scene, and then Joel just goes on a rampage. And then it turns into a big revenge plot in the sequel for the very thing I didn’t want to do. It was all very frustrating.

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    someone should endeavor to make The Most Political Game In The World by simply having no white male characters in it at all.

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        It seems to me, some people just want to hurt others… Best is to ignore the loud minority and focus on the not so loud majority, which will buy the game 😇

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          Even better, don’t focus on the majority OR the minority. Wait till the game’s out before you make a decision. Don’t preorder shit.