I am influenced by both and control none, bobbing along the waves of misinformation and mismanagement like a cork in the ocean .

few people know that or will understand it; it’s been tarnished by the foundation.

If I were managing thunderbird, I would do a rebrand because I am not the first or last person to make that mistake ; there are tens of millions of me

Just for argument’s sake, it’s easier to change the behavior of one mismanaged foundation than the broken news cycles

Few know how things are structured. Or more importantly, how it could be restructured later.

I’m cynical and already looking at forks

The mit license allows a mix of public and commercial code run by the same company, with minimal legal issues. One can use other tactics I am sure, but this one seems good when the commercial code absolutely needs the public code .

I think some confusion here can be resolved by stating this is anti foss, taking advantage of foss, it is capitalism taking advantage of having a good code base while making sure any contribution from outside the company is minimized. At the same time it gives my company absolute control over the private part.

Usually get into arguments here! I’m not defending it, but am saying open source would be less without.

For our use case, this makes the most sense.

I’m not at all sure about the larger trend you noticed, but I know a non trivial number are doing it for the same reasons

Speaking for myself, it’s because future monetization can be easier under mit when using a foss utility and private code.

My project would not exist at all unless there were ways to make money off it.

True, others can also use that same code too, in the exact same way, but that requires quite the investment, and those of us that are doing this are banking on not getting the interest of a monopoly in that way. We are competing against other small businesses who have limited resources.

At the same time the free part can get a boost by the community.

I comment a lot in politics here, and am sometimes an ass, so cannot name this project

No central point there

The group of repos also is an alternate 4chan.

I have no clue about the code, haven’t looked, but it has consistent work done and some people use it. In this context, I would feel less good about the code if Pepe was not in the picture

The process makes file to read via http (not https), it’s just a nonce ( some random characters). Once their server reads that file, using the domain (and not the ip) and compares with what is expected, this shows you own the domain , and they give you a new ssl cert, modifying your server’s https configuration file (usually). And deletes the file it made .

Hi, just a guess. But

The retryafter=86400 value is too large (> 600), will not retry anymore.

Seems to me like the call to your server in the verification step is failing.

Do you have port 80 blocked or stopping the call in another way ?

Both; at the same time ( same week ). 1:10 odds

Honestly this is very unimportant. It has no lasting impact, and will be forgotten by most later

25 years ago I noticed the trend in the movies in the theater, and realized the USA was becoming fascist. I was sad, but surprised later at how long it took. I rather thought it would be faster and more dramatic, and not this creeping sorry mediocrity seen later in politics

The irony

I think that’s a frog?