Shaming Google will only work for so long. Grapheme is is doomed to fail as long as it has a complete dependence on Google’s whims.
Have they announced the pivot to a non-android platform? Being security-mind it is frankly bizarre they have long ignored the Google dependency as a huge risk for the project.
Idk if i am missing someting, but what Plattform other than Android is suitable? Linux is just not there yet and people want a phone they can use easily, which graphene is and Linux is just not there yet i think
That’s exactly my point, there’s none and GrapheneOS are not working to create a suitable one yet.
The time to start working on plan B is yesterday
Likely plan B is fork AOSP and crossport security fixes, such features as Google deigns to put in AOSP and so forth. They can do that at any time they choose, may as well wring as much work out of the big G as possible, later is better. Remember their focus is security, it just happens to benefit privacy as well.
Here’s hoping they can hang on long enough that there’s a viable hardened Linux phone to take the role.
They don’t particularly like Linux as a platform from a security standpoint:
But somehow Android, which is based on Linux, somehow checks those points for them…
The hipocrisy is too big to ignore and it’s true, with that mindset of just wanting and waiting for someone else to do the hard work for them to just add patches here and there… they’re doomed to fail.
Maybe they need to look at haiku. :-p
Graphene’s problem is that its very high firmware and other requirements mean they have to stand on the shoulders of giants. Their problem is that the giant is Google.
They would probably need huge resources to do that on their own, which is why they have to rely on the maintenance effort of some large company.
It’s interesting to hear it has high hardware requirements. I didn’t know that. That sounds similar to the problem that also causes planned obsolescence in phones generally.
High requirements not as in performance but hardware security feature. But that is the easy part as far as I understand. The difficult part is the requirement of super fast and constant security patching.
Ah, I see.
i bet that thing of google cutting security stuff for pixel11 was because the government complained about graphene making it unhackable
It’s probable and now they aren’t even hiding themselves anymore.
I feel vindicated for pivoting to Ubuntu Touch. It’s far from secure and is admittedly inferior to Android right now, but at least it has no dependence on Google. I kind of saw this coming the second they annouced closing down Android and making security fixes no longer open source
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