I very much want to see how this “community run” forum would operate. Does everyone have the ability to remove comments or other users? Would it be up to the votes to decide what stays or not? What then when someone posts something actually offensive? It just stays there until everyone can decide what to do with it? Like, please explain it to me.
I don’t know which is the whole point of finding community solutions. No single person has the solution. A community develops it over time.
This was suppose to be a leftist leaning spaces. If they can’t fucking figure out how to moderate how do they expect to implement any of the core ideals. Cooperatives for example are exactly that.
Mods are the patriot act of the internet. It’s clear now looking back that the same shock doctrine that applied in every other part of life to limit freedoms and keep us controlled were applied to the internet as well. The barrage of CSAM across sites was the false flag that meant we all responded by giving away community based control to a handful of moderators, often times it was moderators who controlled 100s of other forums.
It’s all to avoid another Egyptian spring. It’s to keep your group from joining this other group. We’re all on our neat little boxes. Boxes that are used to suffocate rather than grow. How many times a day do you need to see post asking which is your favorite marvel character to realize the fucking hell moderation as created.
So then when was the internet ever “community based” to the point that we didn’t need mods or have separate websites and forums? And then when did we give that away?
I would say it was more like many places early on tried to build places that were community powered but it always went to a more hierarchical structure. Much like how capitalism and enshittification works. Over time, the people who really want something a certain way will get their way. We were headed in a good direction with voting. Then it’s like we just forgot about it. That feature turned into the most useless thing. Remember when sites all got rid of it at the same time? That was weird right. Maybe not so weird if they were all doing it because of outside pressure. Now we still have up and down arrows but they don’t do nothing
I very much want to see how this “community run” forum would operate. Does everyone have the ability to remove comments or other users? Would it be up to the votes to decide what stays or not? What then when someone posts something actually offensive? It just stays there until everyone can decide what to do with it? Like, please explain it to me.
I don’t know which is the whole point of finding community solutions. No single person has the solution. A community develops it over time.
This was suppose to be a leftist leaning spaces. If they can’t fucking figure out how to moderate how do they expect to implement any of the core ideals. Cooperatives for example are exactly that.
Mods are the patriot act of the internet. It’s clear now looking back that the same shock doctrine that applied in every other part of life to limit freedoms and keep us controlled were applied to the internet as well. The barrage of CSAM across sites was the false flag that meant we all responded by giving away community based control to a handful of moderators, often times it was moderators who controlled 100s of other forums.
It’s all to avoid another Egyptian spring. It’s to keep your group from joining this other group. We’re all on our neat little boxes. Boxes that are used to suffocate rather than grow. How many times a day do you need to see post asking which is your favorite marvel character to realize the fucking hell moderation as created.
So then when was the internet ever “community based” to the point that we didn’t need mods or have separate websites and forums? And then when did we give that away?
I would say it was more like many places early on tried to build places that were community powered but it always went to a more hierarchical structure. Much like how capitalism and enshittification works. Over time, the people who really want something a certain way will get their way. We were headed in a good direction with voting. Then it’s like we just forgot about it. That feature turned into the most useless thing. Remember when sites all got rid of it at the same time? That was weird right. Maybe not so weird if they were all doing it because of outside pressure. Now we still have up and down arrows but they don’t do nothing