

They’re all switching back to providing content for free which would not happen if it failed. Only ones who can afford subscription model are ones that already established their brand and even then some failed


They’re all switching back to providing content for free which would not happen if it failed. Only ones who can afford subscription model are ones that already established their brand and even then some failed


NPR Guardian Vox
Vs
Tech crunch Time Atlantic
So much smarm for something you don’t really know.


It worked for NYT because they already built a brand and had established customers. For others it failed. The model failed more than it succeeded aside from some special cases


There is currently a subscription reversal because the model failed for now than it succeeded. NYT is in a spot where it could succeed off its established brand. But others it didn’t work. The trend is the subscription model fails. Times, WP, Atlantic and others couldn’t sustain it.
Also I’m left as fuck, I don’t care if quality is good or the model work to help some faceless group of shareholders. I’ll support whatever destroys anyone putting up pay walls online. Burn it all down. It’s the only way.


Not sure if it was all ads. Like how some of the biggest eras of music coincide with pirating music. Maybe you can squeeze some subscriptions by blocking people but over time it isn’t sustainable. When you provide an easily accessible platform that people want to come to, you can leverage that to other sales, not just ads.


I don’t know. But this doesn’t work


Because profits don’t only come from subscriptions.


Because the first 15 years online it was all for free and we all read much more news on their sites until they put it behind paywalls. Now we all get our news from memes. So that’s why.


I think we have way more ability to shape things then people believe. I remember at one point reddit said something like only 10% of users comment. Even less posted. Those were us. It was the nerds.
And no we weren’t short sighted because the early days of the internet everyone knew about data scarcity and how eventually the people who ruined cable and movies and every other media platform would come for the internet. There was so many people yelling that we needed to safe guard against that. But then Metallica sued Napster. Pewdiepie made millions. YouTube introduced ads. Instead of fucking them up, we all just went with it and forgot.


But it could have been different. I just think we were responsible for the culture. This stuff was inevitable. But we had the ability to shape the culture and instead they dangled a trinket in front of us and we forgot and they captured the new frontier like they did with others.
But now maybe if we can reflect, find out what was done, create awareness and vigilance to fight them in the next frontier whenever that is


WUT? Why?
Monetization is the root of a majority of our issues. Without monetizing you don’t get data scarcity, profile tracking, Meta, Cambridge analyticals and eventually data that feeds into the current political systems. There is a direct arrow to our current problems that goes from early days of the internet up through the monetization into data scarcity, data collection and all the marketing tools that eventually feed into modern propaganda. Safe guarding against scarcity by creating a hostile internet and culture to monetization would have prevented all of this going on currently. We can’t ever go back to that. We only ever had one chance. New frontiers do not show up every century. Our job was to keep the people who ruined everything else away.


Hear me out. From day one we all needed to collectively reject any effort to make any profit online. I don’t care if you built something cool, sold furry art or create some neat SAAS. Day one everything should have been stolen and replicated. Everyone should have been terrified of putting anything online out of fear that the monetary value would go to 0 as it was digitally recreated. We wouldn’t be in this situation today with Trump if we stood our ground. We’d have flying cars and world peace


Warm syrup? No thanks


Oh it’s been updated



Yea it’s insane. We need to get back to the idea that anyone is replaceable. That’s the safest they can be when people realizes any successful attempts wouldn’t even matter.
Security industry is incestuous


Nobody asked you to clean it up. But those sites do not die. They grow every year and you cannot complain about fascism or authoritarians here while not actively engaging them over there. Its like not voting then complaining when the guy you hate gets elected


Do what you want. Cowards choice. But the fact that a lot of you decided this same thing means there’s less people fighting the bullshit and it’s out of control. Like it’s out of control and if you haven’t seen it in a year it two, you’d be fucking disgusted what it is. Being constitutionally weaker and hiding away gets a you a few years of relief but that shit grows without push back and creeps in to your life when your coworkers and aunts and grandparents start talking about it at bingo. At some point you have to deal with it. The bullshit is easier to deal with earlier when it’s concentrated then when it’s spread over all the walls.


It’s definitely not sure satire. You people really need to get back on Facebook. It’s nuts. It’s fucking insane
There’s so many of these out there but this one was especially stupid
Imagine building things without monetary incentive. But the minute you want compensation then this whole system you think you want is just childish bullshit and kept alive barely so you can innovate new tools that corporate people can use without paying for R&D.
The previous generation did amazing things. We’re the people who are there to enshittify it all by acting like a bunch of kids whose wealthy parents are dying.