screenshot, probably from Ex-Twitter but I saw it on NOSTR, showing a guy saying that training a zoomer to use a PC at work is as difficult as training a boomer, with a reply indicating that there is only one generation that can rotate a PDF and that knowledge dies with us

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    In my experience, Zoomers largely lack a lot of computer skills (specifically in troubleshooting), but, for me the huge difference between them and the older folks has been that the older folks will say things like “I’m just not a computer person ::laugh::” and refuse to be shown how to do anything whereas the Zoomer just doesn’t know, yet, but are more than willing to learn.

    ETA: NOTE: that’s just the generalized trend … some of the most knowledgeable technical people I’ve met are Boomers and some of the best computer techs I’ve worked with have been Zoomers.

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      Oh god this was my previous colleague. “Hey MBech, mind showing me how I do this thing in Excel you’ve shown me 100 times?” Sure thing, but at least try to remember. He even told me he forgets it instantly because he just doesn’t give a shit about computer stuff. Then you probably shouldn’t have a job that has you working on a computer 90% of the time.

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        Don’t show. Guide them to do it themselves. Never be the one to actually do it beyond the first time.

        If they still refuse to learn, make them take notes. Make them read to you their notes from last time. Make them tell you what each step is and means.

        Make asking you the hardest option for them to get what they want.

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          That’s similar as the saying:

          Give them fish, and they will have something to eat for days. Teach them how to fish and they will have something to eat for a lifetime.

          Something along the line 😅

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            Build them a fire and they’ll be warm for a night. Set them on fire and they’ll be warm for the rest of their life. 🤣

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          “I should be able to ask my team for help” - The guy asking me to do his job for him after the umpteenth time of him refusing to learn a basic process.

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            You are helping - they clearly need the additional training, and you’re doing everything you can to supply that. Their job can’t be relying on you.

            They shouldn’t (and almost certainly don’t) have delegation authority.

            For corporate bingo, the keywords are upskill, cross-training, and bus factor.

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              This person had been taught the process multiple times before and simply refused to do it. It became relying on me to do the job for him in when my job is to help everyone on this large team with more advanced things then that.

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        I 100% agree with the caveat of SAP. I’m not letting those cunts having a single microgram of my brain space. I’m asking accounting for help everytime

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      I started as a graphic designer back in November with absolutely zero experience. It’s crazy being whown how to do stuff in Adobe suite by a 68 year old man

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        Ha. My young coworker said “wow you really know this software in depth, how long have you used it?” me: meh 26 years. He was like “dude that is longer than I have been alive”