• purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.org
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    9 months ago

    This is how Trump won in the first place, wikileaks published emails of Hilary’s campaign doing this. Instead of critisizing her for being responsible for Trump, democrats blamed Russia and attecked Wikileaks as Russian spies, literally called for shooting the messenger.

    This is a prime example of why voting for lesser evil is not a tactic in politics and the whole liberal ideology as whole that we just need to vote for right people, instead of removing powerful positions in government in the first place.

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      9 months ago

      The wikileaks thing is highly suspect, though. Like, wikileaks intentionally disclosed a lot of publicly damaging dirt on Clinton and the Dems at a very sensitive time in the election while not releasing ANYTHING on the GOP, even though they supposedly had that information.

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          9 months ago

          I dunno, I guess that depends. Do they actively and publicly fuel a conspiracy theory that Trump had someone murdered like they did with the Clintons and Seth Rich?

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            9 months ago

            That’s just from people intentionally reading into things that weren’t there and tricking idiots into believing it.

            That’s a very weird thing to specifically be calling out compared to all the other real obvious dirt that was in the emails too. Like stopping Bernie Sanders and literally helping insane GOP candidates.

            Play with fire and get burned

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                9 months ago

                So the odd thing about that is it specifically says Julian Assange says they (wiki leaks) won’t reveal their sources, and the rumors of it being Seth rich were propogated by the long list of bad actors.

                The Muller report says it damning about the timing, but I don’t see Julian Assange himself saying it was Seth Rich at all.

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                  9 months ago

                  From the wikipedia article:

                  Unbidden, Assange brought up the case of Seth Rich. When asked directly whether Rich was a source, Assange said “we don’t comment on who our sources are”

                  From the interview in question, Assange said (and this is a direct quote): “Wikileaks never sits on material. Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material, and often at very significant risk. There’s a 27 year old that works for the DNC who was shot in the back - murdered - just a few weeks ago, for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington.”

                  Then, the interviewer asks Assange: “what are you suggesting?”

                  Assange replies, “I am suggesting that our sources take risks…”

                  Like, you don’t have to be a fucking Mensa member to draw a logical inference about what Assange is suggesting in regards to Sith Rich. You say “the rumors of it being Sith Rich were propagated by the long list of bad actors.” One of those bad actors was Julian Assange.

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          9 months ago

          Nothing suspect besides them turning into Putin’s laundromat. Oh, and then there was the not so subtle pushing of conspiracy theories exploiting Seth Rich’s death. Real class act there.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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            9 months ago

            nah, the real class act is the shit that we now know about what US does around the world and domestically thanks to wikileaks

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              9 months ago

              I used to love Wikileaks. They did genuine good throughout the years. That reputation was forever sullied in 2016 when Assange showed that he could be the puppet for one dictatorial regime (Putin) to promote a proto-fascist (Trump). Then the lies that he used as a coverup! Hardly befitting the head of a “radical transparency” organization. It was all so grotesque and petty. Trump might have just disappeared after 2016 if he hadn’t been elected, but instead the world has to deal with the consequences of the MAGAts for the foreseeable future. It felt like Assange betrayed the underlying cause of Wikileaks in favor of petty revenge on Democrats.