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  • people upvoting

    I remember this being a big problem back on reddit. Most upvoted posts in a subreddit were often posts whose authors clearly didn’t understand the subreddit’s point. What I want to say with this is that post getting upvotes doesn’t necessarily mean they are good post for this community. Because that’s the argument that immediately comes to my mind when I’m criticizing this post: it’s upvoted, therefore people clearly want posts like that.

    I won’t respond to every one of your responses individually, because I feel like you missed what I’m trying to say. It’s kinda hard for me to express my thoughts in english, so it might be my fault. I’ll try again:

    When I see regular memes in this community, I usually have good emotion from them. I often laugh, be it aloud or just in my head. I might send the meme to my friends. Overall, it makes my day a bit better.

    When I see one of those memes like this one, saying something like “it’s ok to shoot capitalists” or “both american parties are bad”, I don’t have any of those good feelings. Even though with the second one I more agree than disagree. These are not memes, at least not as I see it, for me they are just (often very hateful) political message written to some meme format. I’m not talking about every meme criticizing communism. I’m talking about these low effort memes that I could create tons of from literally any random meme template.

    Now, the following is just my opinion: I don’t think people who agree with the political message in these memes (communists in this case) do have the good emotions that I have from regular memes. I believe that people who upvote it do it not because they laughed, but because they agree with the political message. And I don’t think memes should be like that.

    If I’m wrong, I’m just unable to see it with your eyes, and you really find those memes funny and entertaining, then my whole point doesn’t make sense.


  • From Vaxry’s second blogpost:

    However, it was brought to our attention apparently you have decided to take to posting about this to your blog.

    I have full rights to do so, just like you apparently had the right to post it to your mailing list.

    I didn’t dug any deeper, but it seems like Lyude also published the communication between her an Vaxry, if I understand it correctly.




  • I feel like we should separate this problem into two problems.

    First is Vaxry’s behavior. It’s by no means ideal, but whether it’s really that terrible might not be as clear as it seems. This comment by @drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com provides some very interesting points worth reading IMO.

    The second problem, that I think is more important, is that whether people should be banned from contributing to FOSS projects because of their behavior outside of it (AFAIK Hyprland community’s behavior didn’t directly affect FDO’s GitLab, please correct me if I’m wrong). Vaxry don’t gain anything from contributing to Wlroots (except it helps his Hyprland, from which he also don’t gain anything), and his contributions help the whole community. I don’t see a reason to deny him helping the whole wayland community, regardless if he is a bad person or not.

    My key argument for this is that I don’t think FOSS would be in a state it currently is if every project did this. People have various opinions, often very wrong, but in my opinion that’s not a reason to not collaborate with them on FOSS software - the code is public and if it’s good, it’s good. Why does the author matter? As an example, lead dev of Lemmy is an genocide-denying tankie. I more than disagree with his political view and I think it’s comparable to nazism in how bad it is. However, I don’t see it as a problem if I ever learn rust and contribute to Lemmy codebase, or in filling issues and other ways of collaboration. And I don’t see a reason to not use Lemmy because of that.

    I know that FDO has right to ban him, but from reading the e-mails, it really seems like the person enforcing the CoC has a personal problem with Vaxry and wanted to use her position to ban him. That’s just my feeling though. And of course if FDO reverted her verdict, they would be accused of everything Vaxry was (maybe rightfully) accused of.

    I was really thinking about it today and yesterday, and this was what I came up to. I’m definitely open to discussion, but please, keep it civil. Also sorry for my terrible english, I’m working on improving it.








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    7 months ago

    No, it’s not the morally correct position. It’s your political opinion. But I was trying to make a different point, and that was how bad your “meme” is. The whole point is that people with opinion A are angry when you tell them your opposite opinion B. What I demonstrated with my parody of your meme and what you just confirmed is that the meme can work the same even if you switch A and B. It’s a low effort post made in 2 minutes on a toilet and it’s not funny, not even for people who agree with your political opinion. Or at least I don’t think communists on lemmy are that dumb to find the “lol people who don’t agree with me are angry when I tell them the thing they don’t agree with 🤣😂🤣” funny. It’s stupid and it would be just as stupid if I posted my version of the meme. I don’t mind political memes, even if I don’t agree with them, but this is not a good meme. It might be a funny shitpost, it’s really similar to something like “annanas on pizza haters when you tell them annanas on pizza is tasty”. People like you posting low effort shit like this and people upvoting it not because they find it funny, but because they share your political view are turning lemmy into communist circle jerk. !comics@lemmy.ml is full of hateful political cartoons that one of the mods keeps spamming there, so it already is just that. People giving lemmy a try and seeing this getting upvoted are not going to have a good first impression about lemmy. I believe you are hurting this community and whole lemmy and helping no one.