well then. I suppose we’ll see who has to make a cup of coffee for whom.

okay. I’m not really convinced by most of what marx had to say. a lot of it seems like it was really far sighted, but doesn’t quite ring true in 2025. some of it seems pretty solid. dude could seriously write though, when he wasn’t actively trying to be bland for the respectability, and was proof that people in the 19th century didn’t have to be pieces of shit.

im looking for a classless stateless society where the point is human flourishing and resources are distributed with an eye to fairness and the long term well being of all people. I think there are better/worse and more/less stable ways to get there, but if it’s stupid and it works, it wasn’t stupid.

assuming that’s roughly your goal and we’re both alive to see it, I’ll bet you a cup of (probably extinct by then) coffee my way gets there first?

yes but this is cheaper, I guess. why should they care about the environment?

the core “from those who have to those who need” is still in common, and it is a form of classless stateless society, even if it doesn’t really scale and we can’t get back there from here.

plus, there are alternatives to marx. he wasn’t infallible.

everything is miserable to access nowadays. this particular technology should never have been developed in the first place.

but here we are.

you’re right, they could be a monarchist instead. that’s much more sensible.

also, primitive societies tended to be pretty communist. you need to build to delusions like capitalism.

capitalism, of course, where utility is only allowed to exist as the unexploited byproduct of a scam, cannot fail. it can only be failed.

I’m convinced a lot of them are being paid.

a not insubstantial amount of the world’s resources are going to this shit. most of the cutting edge chip making capacity for the past few years has been for increasingly specialized parts for running these fucking things. plus the intellectual resources to design them.

and the electrical+water resources to run them are staggering-some places are having brownouts, or cannot build more very necessary houses, because the water is being used up to cool these things and then thrown away after.

there is no real mass use case yet. it’s not genuinely good for anything. but it’s part of a large scale grift to discipline labor. the social reaction if it fails will be a massive resurgance in the political power of labor, and a collapse of trillions of dollars of fictionalized wealth concentrated mostly in the wealthiest hands.

in a very real way, this is a fight for the soul of the world. for what the future could possibly be. for who gets to be in charge.

yes, one side is built entirely on lies. they always have been. they always will be, until we strangle the last one of those fuckers with some other poor dumbfuck’s entrails. that just means their dominance, in such a high stakes era, with so many looming challenges, is likely to mean the end of all life on earth.

so they’re paying a lot of people to push this shit. to push this shit everywhere.

so rephrase without ‘balancing’

perched on top of. stacked. arranged vertically.

some of us are neoposadists, and really hoping for it.