Not sure why people are downvoting you, you’re right.

Here’s the announcement from over 2 years ago.

They are the same. It is the same app. They have announced that they will keep both K9 and Thunderbird in parallel, but the underlying program is the same - it will be only a cosmetic difference. This has to do with app IDs and user preferences, etc.

Here is the K9 Beta that is the same version as the new Thunderbird (beta) app. You are just switching from the beta back to the release.

Edit: sorry link was missing: https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/releases/tag/K9MAIL_8_0b1

Thunderbird team has been developing K9 for years now. This step is a small iteration from a technical point, but significant in that they feel it is stable and complete enough to put their name on.

Thunderbird is technically part of Mozilla but as far as I can tell, they are funded and operate pretty much independently from the browser and other parts of the org.

It is identical. They’ve said that they will continue to release them in parallel with different branding. This has to do with users’ preferences, but also with certain downstream things like network trust and store requirements.

They have said that they will continue to release identical versions of each in the immediate future.

It’s just launched today in beta. I’d expect it to be there eventually, but you can grab it from GitHub if you want to try it.

I’m not sure, but that could be connected to the name change K9➡️Thunderbird. They have said that they will maintain parallel releases of both (identical except for the name/branding) for the immediate future. This release appears to be the identical but may (or may not) solve the issue.

They have been the same team for the past 2 years. I think they have done a pretty good job developing new features thoughtfully and improving the user experience. One thing I’m really enjoying about this release is that they have made it much faster to toggle between accounts.

If they are confident adding their branding, then I take it as a show of confidence in their work.

There are tools that do this using replacement and/or zero width characters.

https://lingojam.com/UnsearchableText

I think more ironic than bad.

I think this still eliminates class action suits. According to the article quotes, they still define the court and terms under which you can sue.

As I read it, the article is comparing the two shows exactly to show why they shouldn’t be judged the same. But maybe I just don’t get it.

So we are doing AI and Crypto, but shutting down Mozilla.social?

Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool.

sending hugs!

I’m currently about halfway through setting up a home server on an old/refurbished Dell PC. It has enough compute to transcode if needed, but no more. I’ll have to upgrade the storage to set up RAID. For software, I am running xubuntu, which offers the benefits of the great community and documentation of Ubuntu. It is very beginner friendly, but is a bit simpler and lighter than gnome. I’m running everything I can as Docker containers.

Hi, I’m your customer base.

I’m a complete novice, no network or coding experience, but not afraid of computers either. I’m pretty worried about messing up something serious due to lack of knowledge.

In the end, I didn’t choose Synology or the like due to:

• lack of robust community support. I’ve noodled around with Linux for years and learned that community support is essential.

• price. I’d pay 10% or 50% more for a good pre-configured system, but not 3-4x more (which is just the general feeling I get from Synology)

• lack of configurability. I’m still not sure what I would like to do (and be able). I know I want to replace some storage services, replace some streaming services, control my smart home, maaaaybe access my files remotely, and probably some other stuff. I may want to have email or a website in the future, but that’s not on my radar right now.

If there were some plug-and-play hardware/software solution that was still affordable and open, it would be a good choice for me.

Its rare enough to be trivial, and when it happens, it’s usually someone who doesn’t realize that they are not eligible. For example, if someone came to the country at a young age and mistakenly thought that they could vote.

But as it turn out, policies that require people to verify their citizenship are also very good at disenfranchising eligible voters who are poor, young, immigrants, disabled, or non-native English speakers. Neat, huh?

Edit: I forgot LGBT folks who may have changed their name or lack access to their childhood documents.

So I ended up clearing the data. It was not the call history, contacts, or messaging media.

Some of my very old messaging media was gone, but I think that that probably was already missing from the last time my phone died.

I don’t understand what data would be in the phone app. I use a separate voicemail app, there is a separate contacts app, and Messages should have all the text multimedia. The only data that should be in the app would be call history, which I don’t mind losing, but I don’t want to lose messeging media or contact info.

Just getting started but yeah, I have basically no technology background. Mostly I’m too stubborn to know when to quit something so here I am lol.