Expect as you like. Jokes are, as they are. Not much to be said about Haiku, its a joke.
Really. Get over yourself.
Its ok if I don’t like something. I’m not disagreeing with your or criticizing your post. Check Lemvotes. I upvote you.
I’m a bit bemused by all this fragility displayed, but I’m sure we will all get past it.
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The website in question was in fact shit. Some things are easily judged in objective terms.
As to SvarDOS, I’m on the fence. There are aspects of it that seem unstable, and for most DOS usage these days, stability is the only thing you actually want out of it.
Are you upset about my opinion of Haiku? That project is a joke that I’ve been watching for over 2 decades. I am extremely surprised they got it along this far. Its better than ever. Still kinda silly with their branding and copyrights.
Stop and think about this for a second. You post into the void. Nobody replies. Look back and see it.
I read one of your posts, spend an hour or more on the site you link, dig deep into it, come up with an opinion, and post a cogent reply.
What did you expect when you posted? More of nothing?
This is what its like when actual people converse about things wherein they have opinions.I’m not in the least bit upset about anything. I enjoy your posts. You post about things I care about.
Nice to meet you, regardless of the friction.
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Operating Systems@beehaw.org•did anyone get CommodoreOS3 running?English
2·10 days agoOk, ya I just read all that again. I should take another crack at this silly thing.
I use them. I play with them. I judge them as I like. This is a place to discuss them. Would you rather empty silence?
You are also an OS fan. We have far more in common than not.In this particular case, SvarDOS is trying to play in a space where real tools may actually be required.
Is it a real tool? That is an open question.
I’ve been using FreeDOS for a really long time. Decades.
https://www.freedos.org/

I’m all for new stuff, new emulators, new toys.
But if I had a job to do, I’d probably go with FreeDOS, because its THE standard.There isn’t a whole lot of info on the SvarDOS page that might allow you to differentiate their offering from FreeDOS.
- It doesn’t have version numbers, which does not actually sound like a good thing to me.
- It has an online package manager. You know, like FreeDOS does with FDNPKG16.
So … I want to know more, but this seems a bit sketch to me.
Edit: Their site is shit. Took me a while to find this.
*** Why would I want to use SvarDOS instead of FreeDOS? ***
http://svardos.org/phpamb.php?fname=help%2Fhelp-en&f=freedos.amaDunno. I’m not buying the reasoning. …
… But then again, I’ve heard less coherent reasons to fork the code.
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Operating Systems@beehaw.org•Haiku OS Lands Improved Touchpad Support, Still Working Toward Beta 6 - PhoronixEnglish
1·17 days ago“A disk image menu is finally added to DriveSetup so that disk images can be worked from that GUI without resorting to the command line.”
For me, the new DriveSetup hung during install.
Switching back to the main installer app let it get past whatever its issue was, and it completed the format.
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Operating Systems@beehaw.org•Haiku OS Lands Improved Touchpad Support, Still Working Toward Beta 6 - PhoronixEnglish
1·17 days agoThey have been huffing their own bullshit for the last 25 years.
Contrast this high-sounding fluff …
“The Be Operating System introduced progressive concepts and technologies that we believe represent the ideal means to simple and efficient personal computing. Haiku is the realization of those concepts and technologies in the form of an operating system that is open source and free.”… with what we see in About this system …

I haven’t dug around under the hood of this version, but the last time I looked, it was radically different from BeOS. I do admit this version looks a lot more like BeOS, they came closer to hitting that mark. It’s kind of a pig tho. Not very zippy. DHCP didn’t work, haven’t got it online yet.
It does run straight from an ISO, so if you want to check this Frankenstein fossil out, its easy to do. https://www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku/r1beta5/
(Edit … It runs much faster installed to a virtual disk, and the DHCP was my fault. I got it going. Installed a couple apps.)
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Operating Systems@beehaw.org•Haiku OS Lands Improved Touchpad Support, Still Working Toward Beta 6 - PhoronixEnglish
1·17 days agoI loved BeOS. Haiku is not BeOS.
Its not even very much like BeOS. That being the case, I don’t quite understand why it exists.Here. Go read their confused mumble of an explanation.
https://www.haiku-os.org/about/
… Now, what did you get out of that?Like, if they just straight up said “We don’t like Linux or Mac, and want our own groovy icons”, I could get along with that rational. This vague bullshit about some higher purpose just sounds hollow and lacks meaning.
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Technology@beehaw.org•Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is boring and dangerousEnglish
12·18 days agoOver and over its the same story. AI makes everything dumber.
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Operating Systems@beehaw.org•9front is a weird Unix-based operating system with an even stranger historyEnglish
4·1 month agoAre you curious? 9front is nerdy as fuk. I totally recommend giving it a whirl.
FYI … 9front is useless. Its a programmer’s toy. An OS enthusiasts challenge.The site. https://9front.org/
The holy document. The Dash1.
This is the funniest piece of technical documentation I’ve ever read.
http://fqa.9front.org/dash1.gefs-sp1.pdfHow is it different? It’s GUI-native. In order to run something, you use ‘mouse chords’ to draw a terminal window, and then you can run stuff in that window. Last time I used it I started to learn acme, the editing environment, which required more mouse chords. I poked at it for a week or so and moved on.
I own two GL.inet routers. I liked my Flint so much that I bought an Opal for my office and on the road. These machines are well provisioned. The OpenWRT reviews of them say to just leave the stock bootloader installed. I’ve installed all sorts of packages, multiple subnets, VPN, adblock, etc. GL.inet gear is good stuff.
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Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com•How can I keep track of downloaded files on Linux to avoid downloading them again?English
1·2 months agoI use sticky notes on my monitor.
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•Where can I learn about networking?English
2·3 months agoCisco offers a whole lot of free online training as well, on several different websites.
Its kind of a pita to get access in the first place, but its definitely free, comprehensive, and starts from the ground up.
And of course, they have paid training options on those same sites.
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•Where can I learn about networking?English
2·3 months agoWell … How much do you want to learn? How serious are you?
If you want to know networking, the authority is Cisco.
I’m scheduled to take my CCST Network exam tomorrow. That’s an entry-level Cisco cert.
I’ve been studying for about 3 months. Wish me luck …Junior NetAdmin Cert
The CCST training is online and entirely free.
https://www.netacad.com/career-paths/network-technician?courseLang=en-USAccess
You’ve got to jump through some hoops. You need to create an account and go through some verification.
They need to figure out if you are ‘overseas’ and whether you should be able to download encryption products.
I think its probably easiest if you use your work email, that’s what they are really looking for.Cisco U
There’s a shit-ton of free classes at Cisco U as well.
Most of those are not directly cert-related, but a large amount of them were created for people studying for the CCNA, so they are certainly helpful. There’s all sorts of rando training, keep ya real busy. Here’s one I’ve started.
https://u.cisco.com/paths/understanding-cisco-data-center-foundations-20705Lab Environments
The whole study program uses Packet Tracer for the labs, which you download from them.
I also got a copy of Cisco Modeling Labs running. That was a bitch, had to shoe-horn an OVA to run on Proxmox.
And I got an older edu copy of the Cloud Services virtual router, if there’s anything these other lab environments can’t handle. (This version can be freely downloaded … csr1000v-universal9.03.12.00.S.154-2.S-std.iso)
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•New Community Rule: "No low-effort posts. This is subjective and will largely be determined by the community member reports."English
161·3 months agoI’ve posted here and had it deleted. So I don’t bother.
The instance I’m a member of had an unused selfhosting comm, and I started using it. Other people did too. Thanks for the shout out.
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•**How** should I properly document my homelab?English
2·3 months agoAlright already! I’ll work on my upgrade.
I’m wondering if I should just build a new docker and then migrate the data instead of upgrading in place. I bet that’s the easier thing to do in the end. Sounds safer too. I got backups and all, but …
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•**How** should I properly document my homelab?English
1·3 months agoNetbox is a hell of a package, of which I’ve essentially only touched the IPAM, and I don’t even use it programmatically. I just use the web console to keep track of 4 subnets and about 50 IPs.
It’s got a whole virtualization section that I haven’t touched, although that would make my device mapping more sensible. I just treat em like they are all real, and only map the physical nics on the hypervisor hosts.
I do keep text notes in Netbox entries, but that’s sort of a backup. If its something I’m likely to need to know, I’ll have a note in Proxmox. Usually login links for apps hosted there and the like. And of course I’ve got a folder full of text files with all my deepest secrets.
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•**How** should I properly document my homelab?English
3·3 months agoI’m not real clear what exactly you need to document.
Infrastructure documentation starts with an IPAM.
A good IPAM can help you document all kinds of stuff.I use NetBox.
https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox?tab=readme-ov-file#getting-startedI’m running it as a Docker container on a Linux VM.
I just looked at their latest screenshots, and it appears they’ve done quite a bit with it since I stood up my copy.
It does even more now. I’ll have to upgrade.
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•I keep waffling on Proxmox. Sell me. For or against.English
5·4 months agoCool.
Here. SSH key issues. There was a huge forum war.
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/ssh-keys-in-a-proxmox-cluster-resolving-replication-host-key-verification-failed-errors.138102/
But its still a thing. That still needs to be fixed by a human. Today that’s me.Regarding CEPH and corosync on the same network … well I’m just getting started with that now. I do have them on different vlans, but its the same 10gb set of nics. I’m hoping if it gets really lousy, my netadmin can prioritize the corosync vlan. I’ll burn that bridge when I come to it.
EDIT … The linked forum post above leads to the SSH key answer, but its convoluted.
Here’s what I put in my own wiki.Get the right key from each server.
cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pubMake sure they match in here. Fix em if they don’t.
/etc/pve/priv/authorized_keysThere’s a couple symlinks to fix too, but this should get it.

Pineapple on pizza. Eeewww! :]
Cool nic! I take you you started out as a play on quixotic, and then you found some crazy characters? That’s unique.