Don’t take the Internet seriously. We have Shitpost and meme communities after all.

They become the establishment.

Ok genocide denier

Another tankie who is a human rights denier.

That’s like saying US is French stooge because the French trained Americans with their system during the American Revolution, and despite fighting the French shortly after in the Quasi War.

You still have not answered on what possibly the precise mechanism by which US manipulate ROK. For the sake of the argument that a system being modeled after another country’s is sign of being pressured, how does this explain ROK’s stalling to have wartime control of their army, while the US has expressed frustration with the delay?

The ROK army is modeled after US military, and so is the Philippine army whose government has full control. But those have nothing to do with the question you still have not answered. How is being modeled after the US army applying pressure to South Korea to not acquire wartime control right now?

You’re dodging now. South Korea isn’t there same dictatorship now as it once was and had multiple, multiparty governments, all of which elected democratically since 1980s.

The US has had peactime control of the Korean military until unilaterally given the peacetime control to ROK in 1994. In 2000’s, they have had discussions then for ROK to also have wartime control of the army, but then delayed due to North Korean posturing. This has been delayed yet again in 2015. If you read the article I linked or know the actual history, you would know that. So now, why is there still delay and why do you think US pressure has to do with it? How is the US doing this, even though in 2015 the Obama administration has gotten frustrated with the delay?

We’re talking about South Korea not having wartime control of the army right now, not during the founding.

How is US pressuring South Korea not to have wartime control of their army, right now?

And what are precise mechanisms by which the US achieves that over South Korea?

Obviously, a tankie old fart is still living in the 20th century who thinks South Korea is still a dictatorship.

In what way does US pressure South Korea not to acquire wartime control of their military?

More coping.

Has nothing do with the debate, tankie.

I could also give you a Wikipedia entry of Joseph Stalin, a fellow dictator that has nothing to do with 21st century South Korean politics.

South Korea could acquire wartime control of their military almost immediately, like the Philippines elected to kick out the Americans from their major base in the country in 1991, but ROK haven’t so deal with it. There is more to politics than virtue signalling. Like I said, the world is anarchic than anyone realise.

Oh sure, you did your research and haven’t just made things up on the spot right now. Keep coping.

I will add more cognitive dissonance on you. Did it occur to you and with other Western liberals and left to ask South Koreans what they think? It is easy to be slacktivist keyboard warrior, comfortably sitting behind a computer, and act high and mighty while living in a country not being threatened by a neighbour, pretending to speak in behalf of people they do not have intimate knowledge of.

This attitude is also exactly what Slavoj Zizek and Jordan Peele have criticised about Western white liberals who feels offended on behalf of persons of colour without asking what they truly think, and view them as perpetual victims who could not look after themselves. Sounds a lot like the old right-wing racist white man’s burden mentality, doesn’t it? But this is ironically coming from the left and liberals. There’s nothing wrong with gracefully acknowledging it, but not repeating it is what matters more.

Not my fault you leave bullshit all over and I have to clean them up.

Sure, keep thinking that. It is though non-white, non-Caucasians are perptual victims of Western imperialism, and could not think for themselves, and have to be looked after by white liberals and leftists from preying eyes of Western imperialist states. This does not sound at all like the condescending white man’s burden with a different flavour.

That guy is a tankie and we go way back.

You obviously know I mean after 1980 that SK democratised. But sure, keep rationalising and accusing me of logical fallacies that you yourself is committing. Hard to look on the mirror I know.

The world isn’t as conspiratorial as you might think it is, with power players in a smoky backroom concocting plans and deals to manipulate people. I used to think like you. Fact of the matter is that the world is anarchic.