The sliding scale is a really interesting idea that would strike a nice balance. Even something as simple (conceptually, probably quite the opposite infra and code wise) would be allowing an opt-in at the user level to see “unfiltered, unmoderated content from defederated instances”, similar to opting into nsfw content.

Very good point, especially for casual users and pure discovery/exploration.

edit: to expand - for someone interested in rolling their own, individual instance, for example, you will need to do your own discovery across the lemmiverse to find instances and communities that your are interested in or which resonate with you, actively seeking them out to federate with your instance (which in *most *cases should just be as simple as searching and following.) One benefit of larger instances is the crowdsource effect of many people having already blazed many trails like this.

ty, fixed!

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I can see how it may appear that way, but we are hoping this is just a temporary state until mod and admin tools can catch up to the scale. Open signups and a flood of users in some of the big instances is not necessarily a problem by itself, but the moderation tools Lemmy has today are pretty rudimentary at the moment. This is certainly the case intra-instance, but is exacerbated once cross-instance moderation comes into play, especially when each instance has its own culture, rules, etc.

That’s exactly it. Open signups and the volume that comes with that just highlights the lack of comprehensive moderation tools at the moment, certainly within instances, but also cross-instance - lots of very active conversations happening on this front though!

Howdy! Would you mind reposting this over in the megathread? https://beehaw.org/post/576904

It’ll help keep things tidy given how hot of a topic this is at the moment + with everyone consolidating there, you may find a more active/engaging discussion on your post there as well!

Locking for now, will remove once you have a chance to repost.

Yup totally agreed.

I am also starting to pick up on the fact that (I think) a large amount of users never really went beyond the front page or /r/all. So, sure there are “main” subs for specific topics, but there is a very, very niche world of communities, and to your point, purposeful fractures of communities. I saw it a lot with the game-specific subs, where you might have a sub for news about the game and general discussion, one for memes, one for pvp or competitive, one for lfg or clan recruitment, etc. - it’s a good thing.

That’s also the nice thing about federated content and instances in that no single instance needs to (or should imo) try to be everything to everyone and it gives everyone involved so much more flexibility. I also think that last part is what some folks are struggling with as well - when there isn’t a clear winner or “main” sub for <topic xyz>, but rather, quite a few options for targeted discussions on <topic xyz>, within different communities each with their own culture and vibe, it can certainly feel overwhelming. Reddit provided the illusion of choice, but this is what actual choice looks and feels like.

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So, it actually does (for communities at least), it just isn’t evident/obvious at all yet

If you click on the ‘Subscribed’ or ‘All Posts’ text in the top middle after you login to an instance, you’ll see the screen that loads now says ‘Community…’ in light grey at the top. Click that, it’s a search box. I discovered this 100% by accident

Here ya go!

https://beehaw.org/post/531459

afaik, that’s about it for the time being

I’ve been using it mostly so I can support the devs and submit bug/crash reports, but fall back to just the website for actual, casual browsing

There is a community for mlem over here as well: https://beehaw.org/c/mlemapp@lemmy.ml

I think it is a lot of the latter at this point, tbh. Non tech-savvy folks that don’t even think about the browser software at all, let alone know there are other options or seek them out.

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For me, it is too far gone at this point. The events of the last ~week just highlighted something that I was willfully ignorant of in that it has not been the website I joined back in 2007 for a very long time. VC-backed focus on monetization, profit, return on investment, and ipo (and everything that comes along with that) has ramped up tremendously in the last few years and I think this is now the tipping point of Reddit doing a Digg.

It’s a bummer, but not shocking or surprising as it follows a long line of exactly the same pattern, across tech. I’ll have fond memories for sure, but have accepted it and am ready to move on to something new.

Also, this is my first post. Happy to be here!