This is for commercial use cases.

This reads almost like a parody.

I’ve been looking into non Google/Apple smartphone alternatives in a serious way since Google set a path to abandon sideloading (it’s happening, they will use a phased approach) as I use a lot of open source apps and I avoid Google Play whenever possible.

For whatever reason it seems Pine Phone is often very difficult to get up and running, this is of course just anecdotal evidence. I actually heard about Pine a long time ago when evaluating their Rock series SBCs; they looked good on paper, but practical implementations left much to be desired.

I am personally saving up for Jolla phone:

https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sep-ii-2026

I want to get the 12/256 variant, so that works out to €800+.

Pricey considering I’ve been getting mid-range devices ($450 absolute max) for the last 10 years; but this seems like the most user friendly option for a phone that doesn’t run on a US-based software platform.

Wrong post/thread?

I am on an older version and I so not looking forward to moving to another launcher.

Nova just so many small useful things that all just work (folder/icon gestures, icon pack support is exemplary).

Is 5,000 mAh a big deal though? My Samsung A73 has 5,000 mAh and it’s from 2022.

American “freedom” themed polemics are such farce in every way imaginable.

The big one for using storage space is 4K video and various video enhancements like ML based Slow Motion (5 min of footage can take 7-8 GB easily).

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Reviews.55.0.html

Notebookcheck often does reviews of miniPCs, while they don’t have a dedicated toggly for miniPC (at least on this page), you can filter by brand which should get you pretty close.

https://liliputing.com/

Liliputing covers mini-PCs, but reviews are rather rare.

If they were serious about malware, they would have to permanently ban all Meta apps (potentially even blacklist senior Meta executives so apps from other companies would also be banned if they hired the Meta hoodlums).

But again, Google is a large American technology company; i.e. a rat’s nest of crime, lies and degeneracy.

Robin Liu, the OnePlus executive who recently dismissed rumors of the company shutting down, has now resigned and returned to China. OnePlus has confirmed the news, further stoking rumors about the brand’s future in key global markets.

Looks like they are indeed exiting markets outside of China.

We need non-US technology platforms. US business leadership has proven that they cannot be trusted.

To hell with American technology platforms!

That’s not to say there aren’t (or can’t be) issues with platforms from other countries, but with platforms from US domiciled business entities you are unfortunately guaranteed to end up in a oligarchic quagmire with a giant serving of commitment to dishonesty, crime and corruption.

Even Mozilla became corrupted by US business types.

I am aware of the difference between recovery options and sideloading applications. :) I’ve installed/used LOS (and other ROMs) multiple times and I am a heavy user of F-Droid and its applications.

Just pointing out that this is just one more reason to avoid Android (saying this a Samsung user).

After Google decided to ban sideloading (their alleged “change of heart” is increasingly looking like a PR exercise), I decided to not buy any more devices devices based on American platforms.

My A73 works fine, but I planning to get a Jolla phone later his year. Going to use both in parallel to aid in switching.

I do wish European banks and eGov services started porting their apps to SailfishOS.

Thanks for the suggestion, I am so not looking forward to moving the family off Nova (lots of tech support), but it must be done.

I’ve been using Nova since Android 4.x and I am really did not want to switch, but it sounds like I have no other option now.

It’s going to be a pain; multiple family members use Nova on their smartphones/tablets and they are used to the interface.

Can Lawnchair be customized to replicate Nova?

LibreTorrent worked fine for me when I used it for a few months (I generally use a home SBC and desktop).

It’s funny how American oligarchs wax theatrical about “da AI revolution” and yet they can’t even solve basic issues in an application store or follow their own publishing guidelines (Twitter/Grok CSAM features).

Bunch of liars and criminals.

This is honestly the biggest issue with using American platforms, they are fundamentally unreliable (not to mention criminally corrupt).