That’s what happens when you put people in leadership positions who earnestly believe that empathy is a ‘fundamental weakness’. Ya know, ignoring that empathy is precisely what’s made us successful as a species in the first place.
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liquefaction necrosis
bones collapsing
So, these are things that have actually happened, since we know that’s a thing. Good lord.
I’m not afraid of many things, but that sounds horrific. Have people lived through that? I kinda hope not.
These sorts of things are why regulations are written in blood, right?
I’m actively working to keep their bones undissolved (not exaggerating)
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Uh… story time? Or not.
That’s great advice, thanks. Also, thank You for doing what’s a mostly thankless job that keeps people safe. You’re in an industry that’s mostly invisible but that’s vitally important, and you probably don’t hear that.
I appreciate what you do.
Right, and that’s my point. If OP shows more knowledge than the company (which seems likely if they’re acting this way) by citing OSHA codes, that might scare them into at least providing air conditioned break rooms, right?
I meant ‘fear of god’ in the colloquial sense, not literally. Like, many grossly noncompliant companies at least begin to try when they realise, oh shit, people working here actually might know their rights and might sue us if shit goes arseways, right?
Yes, but mightn’t this OSHA info be useful to put the fear of god into them? Based on what I’ve read in OP’s post and comments, it doesn’t sound like the employer is taking any kind of precautions (break room with AC, etc).
There’s no legal case here, but if people are unreasonably uncomfortable, it seems bringing up the OSHA regs (specifically, not generally) could at least get them to improve conditions a bit.
My ex and my son both work in a state and industry where OSHA is a guideline and not a rule (different companies), but if you bring up a possible OSHA violation in a health and safety meeting, it’s taken seriously. Not because they’re worried about citations, but because often that can be grounds for a civil lawsuit if something does happen (it’s a basis for ‘they should have known’), and they will try to meet those standards to cover their ass, right?
I’m talking about residential and commercial property management, not manufacturing, though, so it may be different.
e: I am not arguing with you; I defer to your expertise. I’m just curious and annoyed on OP’s behalf. If this were my son’s workplace, I’d be angry.
Highway to the extreme caution zone just doesn’t have that ring to it.
I doubt they did that intentionally – i think many indoor thermostats don’t allow space past 99 (I just checked mine, and it doesn’t either), because that’s an unreasonable temperature for indoor spaces, and would be such an edge case that display space is more important from a design perspective.
The point is that’s an unreasonable temperature. Sorry they’re treating you like this. Makes me angry for you.
Environmental temps that high put you a serious risk of heat stroke, though. That seems like a pretty clear health and safety violation.
From OSHA: Exposure to Outdoor and Indoor Heat‑Related Hazards
Dangers of Exposure to Heat Hazards
Exposure to heat hazards both outdoors and indoors could lead to serious illness, injury, or death. Heat-related illnesses and injuries can happen at varying ambient temperatures, especially in cases where workers are not acclimated, perform moderate or higher physical activity, or wear heavy or bulky clothing or equipment, including personal protective equipment. Heat-related illnesses and injuries also generally occur when body heat generated by physical work is performed in conditions of high ambient heat, especially when combined with humidity and inadequate cooling.
Heat Index
The National Weather Service (NWS) uses a heat index (HI) to classify environmental heat into four categories:
- Caution (80°F – 90°F HI);
- Extreme Caution (91°F – 103°F HI);
- Danger (103°F – 124°F HI); and,
- Extreme Danger (126°F or higher HI).
It sounds like you’re in the Extreme Caution (and sometimes in the Danger) category.
OSHA mentions a Heat Safety Tool app in that document, too.
Here’s their Heat Stress Guide, too, which says:
The Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSH Act) requires employers to comply with hazard-specific safety and health standards. In addition, pursuant to Section 5(a)(1) of the OSH Act, employers must provide their employees with a workplace free from recognized hazards likely to cause death or serious physical harm.
Enforceability does vary, but OP should know this sounds like a pretty blatant violation and may be enforceable.
As a UXD who was a firmware dev for products (not thermostats, but similar things), in looking at this display, I’d bet money it’s not capable of showing numbers past 99. The layout doesn’t seem to allow space for more than a 2 digit temp reading.
The ‘heat’ and ‘fan’ indicators on either side of the temp reading are in a fixed location, so the temp display would max at 99. It’s highly plausible the real temperature exceeds that as you say.
Are you in the US? This situation feels like something OSHA would frown upon.
Oh, that’s all? Followed.
e: thank you.
I’m confused, then. Do I bridge it from Bluesky?
I clicked your link but it didn’t make sense from my end.
Apparently I need to make a new account; it’s been a loooooong time *warning, Reddit link).
I’ll make a new mastadon account and link it here.
Shit, sign me up. I could definitely use some amusement.
Few things scare you like thinking you’ve lost one of the most expensive and fragile things you use nearly 24/7. And even fewer can make you feel like a complete idiot to realise you’re already holding it. Such a crazy crosswire of feelings.
It’s not. I have a Mastadon account (made it nearly a year before BlueSky). It was work. I have to curate it and the interface is awful. BlueSky was easy.
To be clear, I barely use BlueSky, either. I’m almost exclusively on Lemmy. But these platforms need to get their UX ducks in order, and I say that as someone who has adapted to tech and UX since the late 80s.
I barely have the energy for social media in the first place. Mastadon feels like work.
Oh is that what that noise was? I thought it was from when I nearly strangled myself with my headphone cable in standing, since I’ve apparently forgot how reality works today.
I’ve no idea what’s gone wrong, but someone else suggested weed. I wasn’t on it, but perhaps I should be.
It would be cathartic for many of us, though.