IronFox

IronFox is a fork of Divested Computing Group’s Mull Browser, based on Mozilla Firefox. Our goal is to continue the legacy of Mull by providing a free and open source, privacy and security-oriented web browser for daily use.

check out Give up Baby Go by Peach Pit - if you like it you’ll probably like their discography.

You do realise they’re trying to become the crypto WeChat?

Any evidence to support this claim?

Because I’m aware Signal introduced a beta crypto wallet 7 years ago, which was originally only available in select countries, and has had minimal resources allocated to its continued development since. They make zero mention of crypto/payment on their website, and best of all, the crypto wallet isn’t even enabled by default.

Shit app with horrible management.

And here you expose your personal emotional trauma by lashing at at the most inconsequential “nothing”: the development of a privacy preserving crypto wallet, “feature complete” half a decade ago, and disabled by default in a privacy preserving messenger.

Signal is the best free, open source, E2EE messenger that doesn’t leak metadata and has decent UX. Best of all, its completely free to use. Simplex is a good contender, but the UX is still lacking.

Its in a very alpha state, but check out Zen browser. Based on Firefox, incredibly fast and customizable. Their github page: https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop

Not the same scale but Signal has a rather new approach for a messaging client. Completely free and funded by user donations - at least that’s the direction they’re trying to head as their initial seed funding starts running low. I’ve doubled my donations for Signal because I’d like to help prove that its a working model and I encourage everyone who uses it to donate, even if it’s just once. I’d love to see Firefox head in that direction where funding goes directly to the browser’s development. If I donate to Firefox today it might go to one of their dozen or so other pet projects that are unrelated to the browser. I think their side projects are great and glad they were able to do them while they had the cash, but funding is clearly drying up and they need a whole restructure to keep the browser alive.

fair lmfao. i’m intentionally here in attempts to out-populate the crazy

not all of us are crazy 😭

most logical take. people seem to forget that modern apps are tied into all kinds of features that regular users expect to just work. if you want a bare OS with minimalist apps, install lineage or Graphene and only use apps from F-Droid.

when did you last try it and what clients? I’ve got friends/family accessing my library and I see them playing back stuff constantly and never seen or heard of any issues. This is across web, AndroidTV, Chromecast, Roku and mobile devices.

Linus Torvalds has been sold out to big tech companies like Google and Microsoft. He himself is a billionaire and no longer writes any code.

I can’t take that seriously

Same here. I have to trust/use an extension and third party desktop application (Progressive Web Apps for Firefox) to get this feature to work and not have to rely on Chrome/Edge/etc.

I can easily see less patient or understanding users dropping Firefox if they find out it doesn’t work with Progressive Web Apps.

Localsend is great!

If you need something that works with just a web browser, try wormhole.app

If wormhole is blocked or not working, use any ‘Send’^{(github.com↗)} instance, which is a fork^{(github.com↗)} of Mozilla’s Firefox Send^{(github.com↗)}.

• Signal ^{signal.org↗} - Free, open source, completely end-to-end encrypted messaging that lead by a non-profit.
• Shelter ^{f-droid.org↗} - Use Android’s built-in “Work Profile” feature to install or clone apps into an isolated space.
• Simplex ^{f-droid.org↗} - Like Signal but for the more paranoid. Not as good from a UX perspective so I can’t recommend it to everyone, but definitely just as good if privacy/security is your ultimate requirement.

Any sites out there even serving JXL? With a “global usage” of 13%, I don’t see many developers wasting their time on it unless there’s some niche use case that requires it.

Oh, hey! Wasn’t even a problem for me.

By that simple logic any new browser will be ridiculously behind Firefox. Firefox’s code base has been in development for nearly 30 years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Navigator

I was excited for it up until I saw what happened. I get the perspective the maintainer might be coming from, but they made a huge deal out of something that shouldn’t have been.

Sure, but it’s worth asking why the management is so poor

Could just be incompetence.

Working in a bigger corp and seeing people continuously fail upwards or get hired into positions where they run around like headless chickens - sometimes the reason is leadership putting people in the wrong role and not holding them accountable because its easy to “fudge metrics” and believe things are going well.

The strategy I’ve seen far too often:

• Deliver a half-working project that is bursting at the seams and requires more work and resources (or introduces a technical debt that most people can’t even begin to comprehend).
• Leadership declares it a success because a long enough train wreck takes time to be noticed when you’re near the end of the tracks and the people at the front lines are doing everything they can to avoid it.
• Find a new job before the shit hits the fan (typically hold off until your RSU’s fully vest) and talk about how you implemented X while saving company Y and how successful it was.
• Leave the place worse off than before.
• The project/implementation starts showing signs of failure and leadership blames others (because the guy who implemented things is now gone and he did things so well how could it possibly be their fault?)

Too often I’ve seen meetings between management not even understanding what their “core issues” are. How do you even make a business better if you don’t even understand your pain points?

It’s both fascinating and scary.

Hard agree. Apple’s ecosystem is primarily completely closed-source. If you abandon them or they abandon you you’re left with nothing. At least with open source-based projects like Chrome/Firefox you can fork the code and not have to start from zero against a goliath. Apple would never give its customers that kind of leverage.

I agree with you. It’s frustrating to see people lump in genuinely good AI/ML work like private on-device translations in attempts to discredit Mozilla. There are good criticisms against them. They’ve made mistakes. There’s zero need to lump in AI/ML.