will feature a 5G modem developed by Unisoc.
Interesting, these are difficult to make, Intel couldn’t make it work well enough, and had to abandon it.
I’d be careful buying this until tests show they are actually any good.
PS:
Intel tried to make a 5G modem without the Qualcomm patents, if Unisoc works with those, it will probably be OK.
IDK, for me the under screen works fine. When I want to use my phone it turns on automatically when I pick it up, and when I touch the sensor area, it’s instantly ready for use, with me holding it the way I want to use it, whether it’s 1 or 2 hand use, or left or right hand.
I don’t normally use the power button, except to turn off the screen when I’m finished using it.
Yes, it’s such a weird thing QT doesn’t support numerical keyboard?
Dolphin is AFAIK by far the best file manager on Linux. And it is more than decent.
By decent I just mean ability to do basic stuff, like open terminal in current directory, create symbolic links, having detailed list view as default, open root instance, easy switching between 1 and 2 panels, tabs for quick navigation between multiple directories. Easy access to removable drives.
But I think almost all file managers for Linux have all that now. I’m currently using Thunar because I’m using XFCE, but I recently configured a laptop with KDE for a friend, and I must admit, I’m strongly considering going back to KDE. It was just such a pleasant experience to work with, my only gripe is that I can’t make shortcuts on the numeric keypad, and I use that for window tiling.
It’s such a weird omission in KDE/QT, that it doesn’t recognize the numpad properly? If they have fixed that, I’ll go back to KDE instantly.
I was tired of Microsofts monopolistic shenanigans. So when Ubuntu 5.10 came out in 2005, and was extremely well done, it was time to switch to Linux. Because Linux was finally polished and functional enough to actually be at least as good as Windows.
Admittedly there were a period of dual booting for games. But that isn’t necessary today, as we now have thousands of games that work on Steam.
You can say that what it took for me, was for Linux to become good enough to use as a daily driver. I’d say today it’s a no-brainer.
When Gnome 2 was discontinued, it was a major pain in the ass though, KDE was buggy and Gnome shell was hell (IMO). So I can’t say I never looked back, because I did install Windows 7 in frustration. But that was a very short adventure, because Windows is simply so horrible when you get used to Linux. The idiocy of Windows is momentous, and the jumping through hoops fighting Microsoft stupid security features, that won’t even allow you a simple thing as changing your default text editor, becomes insanely tiresome and frustrating very quickly.
So it was back to Linux faster than you can say oops (almost).
Now the desktop has become less relevant to me, because I do almost everything through hotkeys. So I rarely navigate the desktop, so as long as I have a decent file manager, I’m 90% OK just having that.
This is mostly a Camera update to support 200 Mp.
IDK why they find that necessary for a chip for lower mid range phones?
That said Camera speed is really nice, my current phone is way way snappier taking pictures than the old one.
OK, I looked at the link you provided, and the Dimensity 9200+ is rated faster than the Snapdragon 7+ gen 3 with a score of:
So the Dimensity 9200+ is similar in CPU speed, and the 8200 Ultra is similar in CPU speed to 9200+ (slightly faster), according to tests between Xiaomi 13T (Dimensity 8200 Ultra) and Xiaomi 13T Pro (Dimensity 9200+).
PS it’s a very cool page, so I made the effort to translate what the numbers actually were. Thanks for good info. ;)
Damned! I was sure it said 7+, I’ve been looking quite a lot for it, and even put the “Snapdrogon 7+ gen 3” in quotes searching for it.
Then I have to apologize, that I can’t even find a comparative speedtest!? And I couldn’t read the Chinese one you linked.
The Dimensity 8200 ultra was slightly faster and more power efficient than Dimensity 9200+ in tests of the Xiaomi 13T against the 13T Pro. (except graphics)
They are comparable to Snapdragon 8 gen 2, except the 8200 Ultra doesn’t have as strong GPU as the 9200+.
AFAIK Both are faster than Snapdragon 7+ gen 3.
The Dimensity 8300 Ultra is another league: https://beebom.com/snapdragon-7-gen-3-vs-dimensity-8300-benchmark/
OK, then you may prefer the Dimensity 8200 Ultra, this is still faster then Snapdragon 7+ gen3, and more power efficient than Dimensity 9200+, but uses Mali graphics instead of Immortalis, still good for gaming, but not as good as the 9200+, and it’s cheaper too, which could make room for better camera. ;)
Snapdragon 7+gen 3 makes it worth it IMO.
Yes that’s definitely an upgrade, but there are lots of better SOC now, they could also have used the Dimensity 9200+, which is comparable to Snapdragon 8 gen 2. And even the Dimensity 8200 Ultra would have been better.
No charger in the box is a scummy move
Yes and the price is allegedly the same, we expect improvements, like better SOC and Camera, but not at the cost of making other things worse.
I’m not impressed by IPS 65, No-charger, Snapdragon 7+ gen 3, and worse camera , if they want to make a “flagship killer”.
IMO the Alu-body ads nothing over a good synthetic back, that is lighter thinner more durable, protects the phone better and is cheaper.
The only thing worse than Alu is glass.
But that’s probably subjective, others may love their choices?
OK, but it’s tested “above average”
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_nord_3-review-2584p3.php
So for sure it isn’t exactly bad.
The Nord 3 did very well with the Dimensity 9000, and it had better camera.
A Dimensity 9200+ would have been better, that’s competitive to Snapdragon 8 gen 2.
So unless the Nord 4 is cheaper than Nord 3, I’m not impressed with how they balanced it.
how many usb cables do we need?
It’s always nice to have a proper cable rated for the speed and charging capability IMO, apart from that cables break, and they cost next to nothing to include.
Chargers are also sometimes problematic, if they aren’t original, they often revert to a much lower charging rate.
Something that apparently can only be solved, if the laws mandate it. For which we depend on EU.
I watched the video. And I’m surprised they didn’t mention whether the screen is still with Dragon Trail glass.
All in all, I must say I’m not impressed with the decisions for Nord 4, compared to Nord 3.
At least they got rid of the stupid glass back, although I would have preferred plastic back, and the money spend on the alu-body, was spend on better camera instead.
But congratulations on getting rid of the almost all dominating glass black.
Thanks just installed this on Linux and my phone and it works.
But it’s a bit slow, I only get 3.1 MB/s. USB transfer is way faster.
Hate is a strong word, indifferent is more the word I’d use.
And I’m indeifferent because I have used (GNU)Linux as my main desktop OS since 2005, and (GNU)Linux exclusively for the past 15 years. And now even games run fine on Linux, so to me it’s all benefits now.
So it’s just that Windows and everything Microsoft is irrelevant now, except for a classic game I still play occasionally with my wife.
Obviously the proprietary nature with all the problems that includes, was what motivated me to shift originally, and it is also the reason I don’t even want to dual boot Windows, not if it was free as in beer either.
- The joy of “figuring it out”
No absolutely not, I used to be an IT consultant, but like most people I like things to just work, and Linux has done that for many years now.
I do however like the freedom, and that I am not prevented from configuring my system like I want to. I remember Windows having the most ridiculous mechanisms to prevent me from for instance replacing something as banal as notepad as default/system text editor. Absolutely bullocks behavior by Microsoft IMO. I am very happy to have a system where I decide, and not some company that wants to lock me into their ecosystem.
PS: I have never tried anything Windows beyond Windows XP. But boy did Vista and Windows 8 convince me that I did the right thing switching to (GNU)Linux. Almost everybody I know were absolutely pissed about both.
Windows Vista was the most golden opportunity to buy expensive hardware for cheap, because it didn’t have drivers for Vista. Laughing my ass off about people who claim hardware lacks drivers for Linux, when it’s actually worse on Windows with every new release.
“There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children.”
But per the quote in the meme above, you can’t have willing participation, it is always coerced.
And you still don’t provide sources.
This may get a lot worse for every non Chinese phone maker, as they get access to cheap subsidized chips from SMIC that are extremely competitive for low end phones.