An empty insult. There have been numerous sexual allegations against Mao in a way that don’t exist for more recent Chinese Leaders. Believing Women or admitting that it may be possible at least doesn’t make someone a western chauvinist. That’s just chaffing at anyone who offers any criticism whatsoever.

by imagining that communists would also be pedophiles?

Anyone can be a pedo.

Hey, Xi Jinping is still alive, how come he isn’t in the files?

I find it hard to believe that the Leader of China with access to his own intelligence agencies would be foolish enough to fall for a blackmail operation run by a guy with ties to Mossad, Trump, and the Saudi Royal family; assuming he even was a pedo. He might even be monogamous to his wife for all we know though information of his private life isn’t widely available.

Any kind of socialism is mutually exclusive from classical liberalism; not necessarily on every bullet point but broadly speaking. The common thread among the various socialist ideologies is typically that the economy and society exist to provide for the needs of the people.

I just did a look see and while I saw it broadly asserted a few times on social media I can’t find any specific allegations like we have with Jefferson who is positively known to have fathered children with slaves.

Just as long as they support the worker class instead of brutalize them. Just as long as political power belongs to the people and not to the party elite.

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What part of creating a mixed capitalist society run by an authoritarian regime leads to an utopia on any time frame? Spell it out for me because history suggests it will end poorly.

that they can’t imagine a society that doesn’t work that way

Well I’m imagining a classless, borderless society where everyone’s needs are met and it is fantastic.

You think this is a normal way for a government to be

Nothing about the US government is normal unless in the context of an Empire rapidly approaching the point of collapse.

and you think the smart thing to do is assume everyone is like the US

I have enough knowledge to know that in both better and worse situations, other countries do things often very different and assume as much but try not to assume details. Luckily I’m well read.

No, Cowbee in particular. I get along quite nice with communist for the most part.

China isn’t capitalist

That’s delusional

the working classes are in charge of the state

The party is in charge of the state. The working class have vanishingly little power.

A revolution would be devastating for the Chinese working classes.

That’s what the Ruling Class in every country says. Can’t let everyday people get too uppity

It’s more like offering someone a weight loss pill that will work for a couple months and then make you gain more weight than you started with.

You’re whole persona is pushing the party line and pushing back against any dissent. I didn’t expect you to see any evidence.

Just years of reading. That you bring up the anti-corruption campaign means you’re at least familiar with allegations that Xi unevenly applied the campaign against his political opponents. As a side not, I’ll say the anti-corruption campaigns in China are definitely popular and also one clear situation where improvements in computer technology made a major advance in society and peoples quality of life. Corruption of low level officials was hard to root out when the people would be making complaints to other corrupt low level officials and risking retaliation in the process. Computer technology helped bypass that.

I didn’t seriously consider that they would just like I wouldn’t seriously consider White Americans in the 1950’s launching a revolution. China has high propaganda and they’re at the part of both industrialization and capitalism where average people see benefit from both.

Marx overly focused on one criteria to describe class. It’s ok to accept ownership/working classes as a useful tool for understanding the world but other systems also offer useful lessons for understanding the world in different ways and contexts.

A permanently better world is possible so why settle for a temporary better situation with little hope for further improvement? Why insist people have to lose fingers when no one losing fingers is achievable and not at all far fetched?

They have a Strongman because Xi went to great efforts to sideline people or policies that served as a check to his power. Something that would have been unthinkable in China at any point after Mao and before Xi.

Gross

Class traditionally

It only refers to how we engage with societal production in a handful of belief systems such as Marxism. These are different from how Anthropologists view class which is different from how sociologists view class and all of the above are different from how many older societies viewed class.

Maybe the Chinese proletariat can launch a concurrent revolution to overthrow Xi.