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  • Uh hu, are the white supremacists who came up with the verbiage you don’t like in the room right now?

    Yeah chattel slavery was super bad, maybe uniquely bad, that really doesn’t say anything about all slavery, which is also bad, no real reason to split hairs expect you specifically don’t want to be associated with white people, I guess. I would call that racism honestly. Would you call that Asian supremacy?

    “OUR SLAVERY ISN’T AS BAD, AS THOSE YUCKY WHITES!”

    I don’t know that Muslims are white tho… So that’s not very careful about language.


  • I don’t generally split hairs on enslaving people to make a racist argument that my people are better in some way cause they might have treated their slaves better in some circumstances, that’s legit crazy. To the point where I try to reject proper verbiage because it paints people a color I don’t like.

    If I had a choice to be a slave, would I prefer being an Asian woman being group raped by Asian men until death, would I rather be castrated and worked to death in persia, would I rather he worked to death an whipped on a plantation, would I rather be a house slave for the Ting (which by the way they said they were very nice to their slaves and I bet they was never a bad experience!), would I rather be a Chinese space to the Khan?

    None of those sound good, none of them sound like a race is better than the other, you are making a racial argument based on the nuances of slavery and it’s kinda silly!

    Racist.


  • Do I put a value difference between the Atlantic slave trade/chattel slavery and the sexual slavery of the Vietnamese women, or Korean women? No I guess I don’t! Every version of slavery is both abhorrent and devalues human life, and a well kept slave is functionally still a slave.

    I feel like you just ignored any examples that do meet your criteria cause you desperately want Western slavery to somehow be worse than Eastern slavery.

    Honestly just sounds like exceptionalism to me. Again, sounds like you are a racist.



  • We’re just arguing semantics at this point, I’m not arguing the transatlantic African slave trade (a period lasting from the 16th to the 19th century you silly man) wasn’t largely European and evil, of course it was! Everyone in the West who engaged in it was terrible, it may have even been uniquely terrible.

    The African slave trade has been active through the Arab Muslim world since antiquity, of the slave routes during the transatlantic period, three went inward into Asia via the Muslim world, the red sea, the Indian sea and the trans Saharan route (this route being used since antiquity).

    Here I’ll link a Wikipedia for you! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world

    Where do you think the Chinese were getting these magical Kunlun slaves.

    I’m just responding to the weird ass arguments you’re making with all the century shit, the definition of chattel slavery isn’t the transatlantic slave trade, it’s using humans as a commodity, which again is and was worldwide. The transatlantic slave trade was chattel slavery, and Asia did participate in one of the most brutal parts of it through the Muslim world. None of this is a secret you know!


  • I think you are trying to exact a revisionist history on slavery and racism. Asians engaged in the chattel slavery you mention in the 18th century, they also engaged in just plain old slavery. There are still millions of slaves today in Asia. This is a weird argument to have with someone.

    Chattel slavery was not a Western only concept, you may ask yourselves why the Asian continent is not filled with the children of black slaves. That’s because slaves that were imported to Asia were generally castrated. Used them up, let them die, get new ones, no breeding programs.

    Whenever someone spends this much time trying to convince me that their feelings about other ethnic groups are not racist, because racism was invented by the West, I figure they are just trying to desperately hide their racism.

    Edit: I’ll be specific for you, specially black slaves entered east Asia through the Arab corridor, the Arab states were the one’s collecting and castrating black slaves, many black slaves also made their way from European traders as well. I’ll even give you some verbiage to look up. The Kunlun slaves. There has been exploitation of indigenous dark skinned tribes for a long long time.




  • No, you have a super secret definition of racism that doesn’t include people of similar ethnic groups not liking eachother because of past circumstances. Right?

    Ethnicity is included in racism. A Korean or Chinese person who dislikes a Japanese person partially because of a cultural memory of occupation is still a racist. Even if there’s a historical justification for it, the strawman of a person you created in your head to dislike is nothing like the actual people of that ethnicity. Even if the ethnicity is close to yours. Even if you can point to examples of Chinese people doing things you don’t like currently. If you have a cultural dislike of a neighboring country, or different ethnic group, that’s still racism.

    There are many regions that have vast histories of regional conflict in very small areas. It stil gets to be racist. Kurds and Armenians, everyone in Europe, Jews and Palestinians, Hondurans and Nicaraguans, the Tutsi and the Hutu in Africa.

    You could point to other forms of hatred in a country, like the caste system in India (which was eventually used by the British as a census tool), as being non racist. But if it’s based in ethnicity, ESPECIALLY ETHNIC CONFLICTS, it’s racist.

    Tldr, you don’t want to define yourself as racist so you created a new category that doesn’t include you.



  • Xenophobia, all of the response including the early comments of Lemmy were xenophobic leading to racist.

    “How many Chinese people are playing the game to get those numbers so high”

    “Of course it’s selling this much, Chinese are buying it”

    “I wonder if we can trust the numbers coming out of China”

    Like Chinese gamers make up huge percentage of sales and player base in general, yet this game in particular people are very concerned about the number of Chinese players.

    Who cares if it’s selling well in China first, or China only, fuck off with this shit.



  • You would think so, right? But funnily enough, whenever we find a new type of hominid that existed around us (neanderthals, denisovans, homo florensiensis), we find out that humans interbred with them and they are a part of our modern human DNA.

    I bet humans learned to “other” things that look like humans so they could do things like avoid the sick and dead, dehuminize other tribes to kill them in war. All the very human things we do now.





  • Wow, you are really butthurt by being wrong about the Google AI…

    Oh my God, I see, you are conflating the fact that I confirmed that people will call you a transphobe for buying the Harry Potter game by calling me a transphobe. Then I think went back and forth with a terminally online twatter (was that you?) who really wanted me to engage in a debate I wasn’t having.

    I think, and correct me if I’m wrong, clearly this made much more of an impact on you than it did on me (I think this was like months ago). Yes, I don’t agree with performative boycotts that have no true impact beyond preaching to the choir, that includes all the fucking incel stellar blade shit. I think I also pointed out that by engaging in these performative boycotts, you just encourage other people you don’t agree with to also engage in performative boycotts.

    Again, so crazy you got so butthurt that you had to drag a discussion we must have a quarter ago that didn’t impact me at all.


  • Uuuuum ok, JK Rowling is a shitty person who does her best to be on Twitter 24/7 with the other animals. Bigot, competly enamored with her own creation, and totally believing everyone who’s ever said she’s a genius. Ego driven nightmare.

    What does that have do to with you being objectively wrong and kind of an asshole in this thread? You know it all, terminally online jackasses never fail to out yourselves with your goal post moving.

    Oh I get it… Your ego is a problem for you personally as well, right?