• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    4 hours ago

    As part of the ongoing right wing projection thing, their reaction is to immediately transform into what they think a Red Army commissar is, which is yelling insults and threats, and if they could point a pistol at you over the internet they would.

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      And, like their idea of the commissar, they are free to send others to the front, but they themselves are never expected to go.
      Like the creep in this thread who proudly states they donate money to the Ukrainian Nazis. If they think the cause is so worthy, why do they not go themselves?

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      The data center attacks mostly targeted web scrapers, and furthermore the idea that everyone critical of NATO and the Ukrainian government is a bot is based on dehumanization.

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      1. “Everyone who disagrees with me is a subhuman machine” and other insane conspiracies for the paranoid right-wing mind

      2. That story was quickly debunked, even by the journalist who wrote it. Try reading beyond the headlines. Or try thinking for yourself, the majority of bot-farms on the anglo web are run by the US

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      Well you see sweetie, that’s just not very realistic. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, and right now there’s a peace deal on the table

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      Why can’t NATO leave Russia alone? Without NATO encirclement, and without the NATO-supported 2014 Euromaidan coup, this never would have happened.

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      “Let us ethnically cleanse your relatives IN PEACE”

      🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊

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      Sure, and everybody gets a pony while we’re at it. In the real world that’s not how peace negotiations work, and since Im not willing to go die for Ukraine, I do not think my government should help Ukraine force other people who also do not want to die for Ukraine, to die for Ukraine.

      Furthermore this war started because Ukraine broke a bunch of peace treaties. And Ukraine was only able to do that because the US broke the Budapest memorandum. So really it seems like going back to status quo would not bring peace.

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      Ukraine could have just left Iraq, Syria, LNR and DNR, and could have opted to not join the most prolific invader in the world in order to rob the Global South.

      Joining the most prolific invader in the world and invading the Global South are not compatible things to begin with.

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      you have “peace” regardless, gringo. you’re in the burger reich while ukrainians die for your “peace”

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    You: Russians killing Ukrainians is Ukraine’s fault. I love the taste of boot.

    Me: I don’t want Russians killing Ukrainians. I love peace.

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      So you agree we should stop arming the regime forcibly conscripting Ukrainians and stop intervening in peace treaties?

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        Russia should stop conscripting both its citizens, especially ethnic minorities and criminals, and foreigners to send to die in Ukraine for Putin’s imperialist ambitions.

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          If I were an animal I don't know if I'd pick a dolphin or some sort of bird - Since we are talking about things that have nothing to do with what the other said

          I agree, and if we were sending arms and aid to Russia then I would also think that was bad.

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            You are clearly never going to argue anything in good faith because it is exceedingly obvious that refusing to arm Ukrainians will only result in more deaths at the hands of Russian imperialists.

            If you love Russian boot so much you want Ukrainians to live under it then I only ask you go live under that boot yourself, in Russia, and see how you like it.

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              You are clearly never going to argue anything in good faith because it is exceedingly obvious that refusing to arm Ukrainians will only result in more deaths at the hands of Russian imperialists.

              Weird how you never concern yourself with deaths caused by your empire in the Global South, and how you support invaders of Iraq and many other places.

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              Funny to cry about “good faith” when, of the two of us, you are the only one to have dodged a question. Me being cheeky, while still responding to all your points, does not amount to “bad faith”. If you can’t handle derision, then try not to act like an asshole, sorry to treat you half as uncivilly as you’ve treated me.
              I am surprised how quickly you folded. You skipped several steps in “polite ascist bingo” and went straight for “invent some social faux pas that allows you to leave without having to admit you have no counterargument”

              By the way, of the two of us, you are the only one advocating for Ukraine experiencing ever more russian boot. I think the war should stop, preferably while Ukraine is still negotiating from a position where it retains territory. You think Ukrainians should be forced to drown in a river of blood and leave behind a wasteland, all so a few russians can get killed as well. Absolutely psychotic.

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          That is generally the purpose of prosecuting a war is to attain a more favorable peace afterwards, yes. Unless you think some cultures simply love and pursue the worst thing in the human experience because they enjoy it somehow, like some kind of inhuman…orcs.

          Luckily we live in a society of educated people, so nobody is ignorant enough to fall for that kind of nazi-esque, brain-off dehumanization, right? Especially not for years and years 😀

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          1. NATO had to fly in Boris Johnson in order to sabotage the same peace treaty Ukraine is now about to sign 100s of 1000s dead ukrainians later.
          2. It was not Russia that breached the minsk treaties thousands of times
          3. It was not Russia that breached the Budapest memorandum
          4. Russia has attempted peace negotiations several times.

          Of course your fascist deathcult doublethink will make these facts out to mean that Russia is somehow a special case of pure evil, instead of just another neoliberal oligarchy pursuing the interests of the capitalists in power.