• FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 day ago

    It is a proxy for an empire with even bigger bloodstains on its hands than Nazi Germany. The fact that NATO, and the US particularly, supports Ukraine to the point of making this war continue at all, rather than ending the same year it started, is evidence that the long term goals of empire are served by meeting Russia in the front. You might think it’s not fair to judge Ukraine for the actions or intentions of their supporters, but ultimately I’m concerned with the end of imperialism and capitalism; to “support” Ukraine (which in practice means supporting the military industrial complex) just means supporting my own oppression as a subject of American empire.

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      You’ll find that it’s the “centrists” that most support Ukraine. The far-left and far-right tend to be the ones that don’t. Even then support for Ukraine has been quite muted. This suggests that support for Ukraine is based more on a naive belief in democratic values and multilateralism than some furtherance of Western aims.

      That said, I don’t think the war started that way. I think Biden willfully created this war to give America leverage over Europe and to rally the American populace around the flag. I also think NATO expansion into Ukraine (aside from being unrealistic) would not be a good thing. Regardless though I think support for Ukraine is driven by people who still have faith in the values of the west rather than just the might of the west.