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  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I don’t see your point. Yeah, that’s not great, but it’s not a political project and there’s not a way to provide specifically masculinity from a leftist perspective. I see a big part of leftist change in society to liberate people from the alienating idea that they’re supposed to grow up into anything in particular.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      What you’re demanding isn’t possible by the very boundaries that you demand that it must fit in. If you’re stifling my case, the same limitations make yours basically impossible.

      You’re saying it must be a “political project” in some rigid way but at the same time you want some sort of “make boys feel better about themselves” thing which if isolated and non-intersectional is not a political project goal.

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        1 year ago

        “make boys feel better about themselves”

        I don’t want something like that, I think inherently the goals of leftist liberation make people feel less pressure to correctly present a gender role, so the utility of a guru like JBP vanishes. You don’t need to learn to play your role, because you decide what it means to be you. So we don’t need to teach boys how to act, we’re by our actions creating an environment where that won’t be a problem. The interrim between current world and that world won’t be flawless, but that’s something best addressed by non-explicitly leftist groups. It’s not something “the party” or whatever needs to work on

        • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          1 year ago

          I’m not disagreeing with you there as much as I’m saying you set excessively rigid parameters for what qualifies as political action in what is an intersectional society and people.