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    Dude it’s an alliance of western powers. No matter how proud the Nords are of their armies, they are ultimately dependent on the military and financial domination of the US.

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        Let’s see literally any one of those countries try to go socialist and see how long it takes for the US to invade and coup them.

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            Look it’s hard to put a definite date on it, because capitalism didn’t just happen in one day. It happened over centuries. The european alliance had its roots in the colonial rush for the New World, and later Africa. After squabbling over territories, they learned they could make more money by cooperating and exploiting the poor countries together. And it’s been like that ever since about 1900.

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      Finland has been in an alliance for less than a year. Sweden hasn’t been in an alliance in centuries.

      Do people actually talk this enthusiastically on subjects they have no knowledge of? Scary, but explains a lot

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        There are more types of alliance than military, dude. Global capitalism be like that.

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                Deterrents are not absolute. Also, I don’t know how you’re not aware of this, but it was Ukraine’s announcement they’d be joining NATO that provoked Russia. That doesn’t sound like an alliance preventing war, does it… As I said - deterrents are not absolute. They never are. Police and prison (allegedly) deter crime, for instance.

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                  it was Ukraine’s announcement they’d be joining NATO that provoked Russia

                  Boggles me how some people actually think this. Finland’s announcement they’d be joining NATO that provoked Russia into a second war, right? No wait

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                    Yeah, it’s a stupid fucking reason but it’s the one Putin gave. It was a convenient excuse for his imperialist ambitions.