• Windex007@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Western leftists literally never shut up about the Nordic countries so I must flatly reject the premise that the justification is the preservation some vestigial notion of Manifest Destiny

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      10 days ago

      Seems to me that you’re just trying to dig deeper out of a sense of contrarianism even if you largely agree with what I’m saying.

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        10 days ago

        Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying, then… But I agree that we’re just bouncing off supporting arguments rather than directly defending or refuting a central thesis.

        My understanding of your point was that western critisms of China are either at best misinformed, but in general the result of trying to preserve the idea that “the west is in front, so everyone else must be behind”.

        I fundamentally reject this specific formulation because the result of that formulation is that there exists no valid criticism of China.

        So, let’s just settle this: what would you say is the most uncomfortablely valid criticism of China?