This is why I really like grapheneos. They’ve created scoped permissions, so the operating system tells the application Yes you can see this thing, but it’s empty. Right now they’ve implemented scoped storage, and scoped contacts. So if it tries to extort you to see your entire contact list you can limit it to an empty list, a very limited list, or everything if you don’t care
Yea, but it’s a good phone to target, Pixels are one of the few remaining manufacturers that freely let you unlock the BL and probably one of the last that is carried by nearly all major US carriers. OnePlus used to be another but iirc they’ve stopped selling on all carriers stores
Yes yes yes, you can buy any frequency-compatible phone you’d like from like Amazon, AliExpress, Best Buy, manufacturer store etc but that’s an expensive option for many as you have to front the entire purchase price with little exception.
So if you want a BL unlockable phone, purchased through a carrier to take advantage of the reduced financial load of payments instead of all up front, in the US…it’s pretty much just Pixels
The unlockable bootloader is only a small part of the reason Graphene only works on Pixels. One of the main reasons is that Google actually maintains drivers and firmware updates for all of their components and releases them monthly (well, usually) unlike other vendors that are often one or more months behind. Many (most?) other phone brands simply don’t provide the security guarantees that Graphene desires.
There are GrapheneOS ports for other devices, and ROMs that take GrapheneOS features, but none that I know of have the security that GrapheneOS has.
I was interested because everyone keeps talking about it and I wanted to try it myself but it’s compatible only with pixels. I have a Samsung and I changed phone recently so I’m not going to buy it again. I don’t want to spend 600+ for a new phone + 2/300? (100?) for the buds but my next phone will be a pixel🤔
Oof, yea Samshits are the worst of the worst. They’re actively hostile to those who would dare want to use their phone how they see fit.
Even if the stars align and people are able to breakthrough the BL lockdown, Samshit phones are designed to blow an efuse and permanently lock the phone to 80% battery capacity just for a big ol fuck you
Would be pretty shitty if they artificially didnt worked. It think it’s still an headphones that can be used even without the, I’m guessing, nice intégration with Samsung phone.
Yes, but it’s far easier to obtain a SIM unlock than it is to unlock a BL from a manufacturer that just says “No” instead of “As long as it gets carrier unlocked”
I have a Pixel Fold purchased and (still) financed through T-Mobile that is BL unlocked and rooted. Most of the time they’ll override their SIM unlock requirements if you’ve had an account for awhile. Unsure about ATT, I’ve heard they’re 50/50. Verizon, ofc, are a bunch of bitches about it
Verizon are a bunch of bitches about it, they’re as bad as Samshit. They’re a match made in hell tbh.
Of the major 3 carriers, it’s always been T-Mobile that’s the “most friendly” to tinkerers. Technically, you can’t unlock the BL until it’s been carrier unlocked, which TMO is generally OK about overriding their requirements as long as you’ve had an account for awhile
Charging the last 20% is really hard on the battery. Also, Samsung has a history with ahem exploding batteries they overcharged, and exploding earbuds would be quite a meme.
Hostage permissions
This is why I really like grapheneos. They’ve created scoped permissions, so the operating system tells the application Yes you can see this thing, but it’s empty. Right now they’ve implemented scoped storage, and scoped contacts. So if it tries to extort you to see your entire contact list you can limit it to an empty list, a very limited list, or everything if you don’t care
https://grapheneos.org/features#storage-scopes
Sadly Is pixel only… right?
Yup
Yea, but it’s a good phone to target, Pixels are one of the few remaining manufacturers that freely let you unlock the BL and probably one of the last that is carried by nearly all major US carriers. OnePlus used to be another but iirc they’ve stopped selling on all carriers stores
Yes yes yes, you can buy any frequency-compatible phone you’d like from like Amazon, AliExpress, Best Buy, manufacturer store etc but that’s an expensive option for many as you have to front the entire purchase price with little exception.
So if you want a BL unlockable phone, purchased through a carrier to take advantage of the reduced financial load of payments instead of all up front, in the US…it’s pretty much just Pixels
The unlockable bootloader is only a small part of the reason Graphene only works on Pixels. One of the main reasons is that Google actually maintains drivers and firmware updates for all of their components and releases them monthly (well, usually) unlike other vendors that are often one or more months behind. Many (most?) other phone brands simply don’t provide the security guarantees that Graphene desires.
There are GrapheneOS ports for other devices, and ROMs that take GrapheneOS features, but none that I know of have the security that GrapheneOS has.
I was interested because everyone keeps talking about it and I wanted to try it myself but it’s compatible only with pixels. I have a Samsung and I changed phone recently so I’m not going to buy it again. I don’t want to spend 600+ for a new phone + 2/300? (100?) for the buds but my next phone will be a pixel🤔
Oof, yea Samshits are the worst of the worst. They’re actively hostile to those who would dare want to use their phone how they see fit.
Even if the stars align and people are able to breakthrough the BL lockdown, Samshit phones are designed to blow an efuse and permanently lock the phone to 80% battery capacity just for a big ol fuck you
Never EVER buy Samshit phones if you can help it
Uh what? For real? And that’s shit is even legal?! TIL! I’ll never buy another Samsung phone then
Take it with a grain of salt.
If it’s true, I’ll never buy it again, lf it’s not, I’ll never buy it again anyway
So edgy. You’re a real badass, bro.
Why would you want to buy new buds?
Samsung buds? I know they have 100% features with Samsung devices, I don’t know if it works with other devices
Would be pretty shitty if they artificially didnt worked. It think it’s still an headphones that can be used even without the, I’m guessing, nice intégration with Samsung phone.
Disclaimer: I’ve never owned Samsung buds.
Honestly? I like the “switch between devices” sometimes I use the old phone then I switch to my main buuut… I hope they don’t do it
Thank you for not saying that the bootloader comes unlocked. It doesnt.
You can’t unlock the bootloader on carrier-locked Pixel phones; they need to be SIM unlocked in order for the “OEM Unlocking” option to be available.
Yes, but it’s far easier to obtain a SIM unlock than it is to unlock a BL from a manufacturer that just says “No” instead of “As long as it gets carrier unlocked”
I have a Pixel Fold purchased and (still) financed through T-Mobile that is BL unlocked and rooted. Most of the time they’ll override their SIM unlock requirements if you’ve had an account for awhile. Unsure about ATT, I’ve heard they’re 50/50. Verizon, ofc, are a bunch of bitches about it
Even Verizon? I’ve had a few phones from Verizon that were supposedly easy to root or whatever but they have that shit locked down tight.
Verizon are a bunch of bitches about it, they’re as bad as Samshit. They’re a match made in hell tbh.
Of the major 3 carriers, it’s always been T-Mobile that’s the “most friendly” to tinkerers. Technically, you can’t unlock the BL until it’s been carrier unlocked, which TMO is generally OK about overriding their requirements as long as you’ve had an account for awhile
I recently bought and then returned a used Verizon pixel 8 because I couldn’t unlock the bootloader or even add a non Verizon eSIM.
It’s only guaranteed to work with pixels. It still works with other phones, but with varying degrees of success and obviously no official support.
Oh… If there’s no official support and problems, I’m not going to install it
I’m using it on a Fairphone 5 since a while. Works flawless
But which version? Plus, I’ve learned todsy that Samshit locks the battery at 80% with unlocked BL… Even if I’m using it on my dev phone, 20% is A LOT
What the hell, why?
I don’t know if it’s true https://lemmy.world/comment/11865606
Probably longevity? Maybe heat?
Charging the last 20% is really hard on the battery. Also, Samsung has a history with ahem exploding batteries they overcharged, and exploding earbuds would be quite a meme.
Unfortunately not in NA.
Are you building it yourself? Even updates?
https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
I checked, yeah you’re right, nobody else supports scoping
Oh! I meant grapheneOS, It looked interesting and I wanted to install it on my phone
And no tap to pay or wallet, so I can’t switch :(
I heard of scoped permissions before but didn’t know it could also zero the outputs of sensors to trick intrusive apps. That’s a neat feature set.
I really hope Apple implements scoped permissions sometime soon
Edit: lol I just realized the OP could press “Not Now” - though technically the app would then prevent posting stories still :/
This already exists in iOS with photos, and contacts are in iOS 18