Also pretty crazy to watch a bunch of anti-imperialists laud imperialism just because it happens to be against their perceived enemies, The West. Lies in favor of Putin and against Ukraine are fucking rampant in this community, and you would think they’d be opposed to a war of conquest, but so long as The West is hurt, they’ll justify literally anything.
“Imperialism is when a country invades another country under any circumstance”
I fucking hate how you libs sling out terminology you do not understand. Imperialism isn’t just a word used to describe when “bad country does military stuff”. It’s an academic term, it’s a part of capitalist exploitation, it’s an actual process, not just some word every dumbass can shit out to describe what they don’t like. Imperialism is when I fuck your mom.
Tho, the West which sides with Genocide and Nazis, while also being engaged in neo-colonialism, will obviously be getting more concern.
And considering NATO surrounding Russia and helping Ukraine kill civilian in areas like Donbass with Russian speaking people, restricting Russian language n all, some people do think that Russia was baited into acting.
Russia in Ukraine is a great example. The amount if very easily disproven Russian propaganda I see spread in here is insane, and it gets eaten up because it gives people a chance to rail against The West. And I’m not saying the railing is undeserved. I’m just saying that people lap up very obvious bullshit to get an opportunity to participate.
some people do think that Russia was baited into acting.
If you think Russia acted out of anything other than selfish interest, I have a bridge to sell you.
Oh, please, if you think Russia isn’t interested in conquering and expanding, I’d say I have a bridge to sell you, but you probably already got cleaned out.
An ad hominem would be to dismiss an argument by attacking the person or circumstances. You know, like calling someone a Russian bot.
Secondly, I think you missed the point of the image. You claim to believe America is bad, but simultaneosly adopt it’s views on geopolitical rivals uncritically. Yes, including the view that anything that portrays the west in a negative light being “Russian propaganda”. Funnily enough, that’s the real ad hominem and is something incredibly common to hear coming out of liberals.
Edit: this was actually aimed at potustheplant, not Mayali. Clicked reply on the wrong comment.
While that is correct, it’s not what the comment you replied to did. There’s no criticisim to you as a person. It simply says that the argument reads as “whataboutism” so yup, your reply doesn’t really make sense.
Are you isolating that comment alone, while ignoring the original comment? I was talking about that one. Not any towards me, but the original OP.
I mentioned that they did not have any response, other than trying to poison the well and implying stuff about the memes community, OP and other posters.
so much pro russian propaganda in the meme channel, crazy
Actually, the opposite.
Crazy to see many imperialist supporters trying to justify Western capitalist puppets/allies
Also pretty crazy to watch a bunch of anti-imperialists laud imperialism just because it happens to be against their perceived enemies, The West. Lies in favor of Putin and against Ukraine are fucking rampant in this community, and you would think they’d be opposed to a war of conquest, but so long as The West is hurt, they’ll justify literally anything.
“Imperialism is when a country invades another country under any circumstance”
I fucking hate how you libs sling out terminology you do not understand. Imperialism isn’t just a word used to describe when “bad country does military stuff”. It’s an academic term, it’s a part of capitalist exploitation, it’s an actual process, not just some word every dumbass can shit out to describe what they don’t like. Imperialism is when I fuck your mom.
Where is imperialism lauded?
Tho, the West which sides with Genocide and Nazis, while also being engaged in neo-colonialism, will obviously be getting more concern.
And considering NATO surrounding Russia and helping Ukraine kill civilian in areas like Donbass with Russian speaking people, restricting Russian language n all, some people do think that Russia was baited into acting.
Russia in Ukraine is a great example. The amount if very easily disproven Russian propaganda I see spread in here is insane, and it gets eaten up because it gives people a chance to rail against The West. And I’m not saying the railing is undeserved. I’m just saying that people lap up very obvious bullshit to get an opportunity to participate.
If you think Russia acted out of anything other than selfish interest, I have a bridge to sell you.
The imperialists’ favorite scammery: Redefining imperialism.
Oh, please, if you think Russia isn’t interested in conquering and expanding, I’d say I have a bridge to sell you, but you probably already got cleaned out.
I’m not saying the US is good, that’s classic whataboutism.
Whataboutism is a made up propaganda concept popularised by a zionist and spread by the CIA.
You made a classic ad hominem attack since you had no proper response to the meme.
I replied to see your reaction and it confirms it then.
I’m not sure you know what ad hominem means.
Attacking the person and not the point?
Should I have termed it as ‘Poisoning the well’ or something else?
What term would you have used?
An ad hominem would be to dismiss an argument by attacking the person or circumstances. You know, like calling someone a Russian bot.
Secondly, I think you missed the point of the image. You claim to believe America is bad, but simultaneosly adopt it’s views on geopolitical rivals uncritically. Yes, including the view that anything that portrays the west in a negative light being “Russian propaganda”. Funnily enough, that’s the real ad hominem and is something incredibly common to hear coming out of liberals.
Edit: this was actually aimed at potustheplant, not Mayali. Clicked reply on the wrong comment.
Did you mistake me for the original commentor?
Right sorry, must’ve misclicked
While that is correct, it’s not what the comment you replied to did. There’s no criticisim to you as a person. It simply says that the argument reads as “whataboutism” so yup, your reply doesn’t really make sense.
Are you isolating that comment alone, while ignoring the original comment? I was talking about that one. Not any towards me, but the original OP.
I mentioned that they did not have any response, other than trying to poison the well and implying stuff about the memes community, OP and other posters.
You replied to the wrong comment then ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ why would you reply to the second comment if you were referring to the first?
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This is just Judeo-Bolshevik conspiracy for liberals.
eh, prettt sure most of that is the US punching itself in the face
agreed, it all sucks